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[focheesy]

Is that what the players believe or what you believe?

[UK Peregrine]

People dont come to BG because of the football team. I came for business school. Others come for the education program or whatever. some come here because osu is too big so they come here for that reason with no interest in football. some people dont give a damn about sports period.

I would hope your statement is true about most college students, not just BG students. A college's sports teams are a very poor criteria for selecting a college. If this is anyone sole reason for selecting a college, then I would venture to say they aren't at college to receive an education. They are student boosters of the college they attend, not students.

[BGALUMNI]

Just to add my two cents (you can keep the change)

I just don't get it. I went to BG with a bunch of guys that said "I Bleed silver and crimson" or whatever the heck colors...

I grew up a HUGE MIZZOU fan and I still am to this day, but my team is and forever will be Bowling Green. I could have attended Mizzou, but didn't. I chose Bowling Green. Granted it was a little tough for me to root against Mizzou at first, I did do it. Especially after I graduated from BG while attending the game in Columbia, MO.
These guys I went to college with would NEVER root for BG if BG were playing Ohio State. NEVER! How can you not root for YOUR school? I mean unless you hated everything about it?

I am sorry, but I spent too much money, time, and effort to not be a part of what I consider one of the best colleges in the country through and through. Win or lose.

If you are such a HUGE Ohio State fan, then why choose BG at all? There had to be something that made BG better for them, so keep Ohio State as your #2 team, but not your #1.

These people that basically dump on their Alma Matter just confuse me. To me that is like calling yourself a MORON and if you continue to proclaim that Ohio State is your number one team after you have a BG diploma in your hand, then you have #2 for brains.

[BGALUMNI]

that the players have the same method of thinking as the rest of the country's college football fans and that is that mid majors are weak. it's going to be a while still before mid majors can break that and put the same quality of teams as majority of the bigger programs do every year. i dont think they will ever become the powerhouses that the osu and michigans or texas & oklahomas are. but to even have a chance they have to make the players believe it and want to come here

Did you even pay attention to college football last year? Are you all of a sudden forgetting about Utah?

Or the Fact that BG has continued to do well even after Urban "Legend" moved out of NW Ohio?

There were schools that were once in that same breath like BYU...BGSU can become one of those top schools.

We have a new facility coming in that will make BG even more attractive, but Alums need to start supporting their school. Not just sports, but in EVERYTHING

[tekekini]

utah they had to let utah in...utah was weak. utah plays in a weak conference and they played a weak pitt in the fiesta bowl...they absolutley had to let utah in te bcs though, they were undefeated and other teams had too many losses they didnt have a choice..last year was unusual. i mean the mac had 4 bowl teams, when has that ever happened. utah lost recruits because of meyer leaving..they knew it was gonna be like the rest of the mid majors again.
they lost ryan periloux verbal however its spelled to texas and he ended up signing with LSU. thats just one example. Boise state has the best chance. they dont get overshadowed by anyone in idaho like BG does by UofM and OSU.

[kdog27]

These people that basically dump on their Alma Matter just confuse me. To me that is like calling yourself a MORON and if you continue to proclaim that Ohio State is your number one team after you have a BG diploma in your hand, then you have #2 for brains.

This is exactly how I feel. One brain cell looking for the second. I have said this before, I have no problem with the people who root for OSU, but if you went/go to BGSU, BGSU should take front seat no questions asked. I don't care if you rooted for OSU since you were three. Where did you go to college, where did you spend and invest 4+ years of your life? ...Well yeah but BGSU will never play for a national championship, or play in the rose bowl, or play in the big ten. ...That has to be the most pathetic answer ever but is almost always the logic involved. Why do we have to be playing for the national championship to be #1 on your list? Seems like USC is playing for it every year lately, does that mean I should root for them? Guess so, since BG can never win it.

Posted by Tekekini
"utah they had to let utah in...utah was weak. utah plays in a weak conference and they played a weak pitt in the fiesta bowl...they absolutley had to let utah in te bcs though, they were undefeated and other teams had too many losses they didnt have a choice.."

Your bias for the major conferences is unreal. Granted, I know I have a hard on for the MAC and I am biased myself but almost everything you post is sticking up for OSU and the other big schools. Utah is weak? Utah pasted every team on their schedule last season. Close as anyone got to them was 14 points. I'm not going to look this up but there cannot be too many undefeated teams that beat every team by 14 points or more in the history of college football. And your response of course will be yeah but they play in the MWC and they played Pitt in their bowl game. Well if it is so easy to kick everyone's butt on your schedule, why does it not happen more often? And you ever think the reason they played Pitt is because the powers that be were a little scared that Utah really was capable of beating anyone? It is very convenient that they played the worst BCS team, and they absolutely handed them their ass I might add.

"last year was unusual. i mean the mac had 4 bowl teams, when has that ever happened. utah lost recruits because of meyer leaving..they knew it was gonna be like the rest of the mid majors again. they lost ryan periloux verbal however its spelled to texas and he ended up signing with LSU. thats just one example. Boise state has the best chance. they dont get overshadowed by anyone in idaho like BG does by UofM and OSU."

There were 5 MAC teams. ..."Meyer leaving" blahblahblah. They wrote us off after Meyer left BG too. According to many sports publications we were on our way out. Pretty much everyone has written Utah off this season. Don't be surprised if they are good again, oh nevermind their schedule is weak and it is so easy to go 12-0.

I feel like a smuck writing this because I have expressed my opinions on how tired I am of hearing about OSU but I am so tired of the sentiment of us being second to other schools. Especially among our own ranks. Yeah OSU is light years ahead of us. That is why they could only beat us by 1 TD on their home field.

[Schadenfreude]

Is that what the players believe or what you believe?

Good post.

[UK Peregrine]

Tekekini, defender of the rich, powerful and strong. Giving a voice to the already voiced!

[Jacobs4Heisman]

that the players have the same method of thinking as the rest of the country's college football fans and that is that mid majors are weak. it's going to be a while still before mid majors can break that and put the same quality of teams as majority of the bigger programs do every year. i dont think they will ever become the powerhouses that the osu and michigans or texas & oklahomas are. but to even have a chance they have to make the players believe it and want to come here

If we all thought like this, we would have no chance to ever change the way things are. Remember before Jim Calhoun was hired at Uconn and everybody said they were too small to ever become a national powerhouse? Well guess what, they players DIDN'T believe that and I guarantee our players don't think like that either. Nebraska is a football monster right? They will always put dominant teams on the field every year right? Was Nebraska in the top 25 each of the last 3 years? A "little" school in NW Ohio by the name of Bowling Green was.

Back to the main argument of the thread -- I realize it is perfectly possible to root for the team you loved growing up while still bleeding orange. i have been a giant Michigan fan my whole life. After I get back from the Doyt and read any postgame material I can find on our game, I check the UM score or watch the game if it's on. After I go crazy watching the falcons pound memphis in the GMAC bowl, I get pissed watching Michigan blow the Rose Bowl. It's possible and a lot of people do it. If Michigan is in the ice arena against our boys, I HATE Michigan for that day. If Michigan is playing Miami and I think a miami win will help our s.o.s. and help us get to the orange bowl, I root for Miami.

The thing that pisses me off is when I'm trying to enjoy a pasting of Western Michigan in the student section at DLP, I have to listen to two idiots in backwards OSU caps checking their cellphones for the OSU score every five minutes, and talking about how awesome their team is this year. When they refer to their favorite team, they mean Ohio state. BG is just an afterthough for a whole lot of Michigan ond Ohio State fans around here and that is what we are trying to change. It pisses me off when there is a bigger cheer in the doyt when they announce a Michigan loss as opposed to a Toledo loss. Every now and then, I like to "get on OSU's nuts". I also think it's funny when people from BG give michigan a hard time. It's a small way for me to stick it to big brother and that makes me happy. And you know what? that gap between us and them isn't as big anymore as people like tekekini would have you believe. We've made up a lot of ground in the past few years and the hiring of Lovett shows that. Conversely, the loss of Beckman to those bastards shows we still have a lot of work to do. But unlike some around here, I'm not willing to write off our squad just because they are the underdog. The statement that our players feel they are not as good as ohio state players offends the hell out of me.....and I'm not easily offended. Shove that mid-major crap right up your ass. We're comin Wisconsin....You better get ready for some pain.

[Warthog]

How can you not root for YOUR school? I mean unless you hated everything about it?

Ask BGSUfanatUT.

[BGALUMNI]

How can you not root for YOUR school? I mean unless you hated everything about it?

Ask BGSUfanatUT.

He is the exception, not the rule that is for sure. From what I remember about him on the ESPN board (If he is the same guy, is not that in love with UT, even verging on hate...)

Shoot, even I can root for UT when they aren't playing BG now, especially since the teams are in different divisions.

[tekekini]

face it. its always going to happen. just like the media is always gonna be liberal, college football is always going to favor the big schools. it is just a fact.

[PGY Tiercel]

face it. its always going to happen. just like the media is always gonna be liberal, college football is always going to favor the big schools. it is just a fact.

And just like Fox challenges the liberal media with its Fair and balanced (cough) reporting, so BG will challenge the notion of favoring the big schools.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

face it. its always going to happen. just like the media is always gonna be liberal, college football is always going to favor the big schools. it is just a fact.

You are viewing the world in black and white....Only the Sith view things as black and white...And the Sith are evil....Are you evil?


I think my point was why can't we become a big time school? You are admitting defeat just as we are starting to win the battle. boo to that.

[Lord_Byron]

face it. its always going to happen. just like the media is always gonna be liberal, college football is always going to favor the big schools. it is just a fact.

1984 AP Final Poll #1 Brigham Young

There is no reason why we can't be big time, other than small-time thinking.