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[saves]

Most of those 40 yrd times are pure fiction. Here is how various 40 yd times can be extrapolated into something more meaningful: (all electronically timed) --- add 0.2 seconds for hand time

4.34 (40 yd) = 10.2 sec 100 meters (world class)

4.43 = 10.4 sec 100 meters (rare for a HS sprinter)

4.54 = 10.6 sec 100 meters

4.63 = 10.8 sec 100 meters

4.85 = 11.0 sec 100 meters

Fastest times at the State meet this year (Div I) was 10.7. Nobody in
Div. II or III broke 11 seconds). NOBODY AT BG RUNS A 4.4 FORTY! Live with it.

I don't think I can totaly agree with you. You can't really just take 40 meters of the 100 and assume that would be their 40time. To be more presise, you would need to obtain the time for the first 40 yards of the race, showing the acceleration of the player. I think you're estimates have the 40 times being a little slow, I've seen people that run 10.9's in the 100 run high 4.4's in the 40 with a digital timer.

[Dr. Bucko]

You don't understand, Saves. The projected times on the list are actually measured during the course of a 100 meter race. And they're 40 yd times, not 40 meter times. What they actually do is measure 40 yds up from the starting mark on a 100 meter straight-away (on a track). As the runners (in full maximum acceleration) pass the 40 yd mark, their times are recorded. Their times are then recorded for the 100 meter mark as well (at the end of the race). This is how the experts do it; it's how I've done it many times. The infor provided -- i.e., the conversion table provided came right from a web-sight on the internet. Everything is correct. -----
I don't want to make a issue out of this; I just want people to be accurate as far as a football players stats are concerned. No touble with yards gained, passes received, touchdowns scored. No trouble with physical dimensions ( 6'4" -- 230 lbs), no trouble with grade-point average, etc. There is always trouble, however, when people start widely raddling off 40 yrd times. If a running back averages 180 yds/game in big-time high school competition, if he's averaging two touchdowns/game, he's gotta be good, he's gotta be fast. Let it go at that.

[kdog27]

Just using common sense you can tell that most of these 40 times are way off. Just a few athletes in all of Ohio ran under 11 seconds in the 100m. But we are suppose to believe that there are players running 4.4/4.5 in the the 40yd dash in great abundance Come on...

[Dr. Bucko]

You got the picture, Kdog!

[UK Peregrine]

Most of those 40 yrd times are pure fiction. Here is how various 40 yd times can be extrapolated into something more meaningful: (all electronically timed) --- add 0.2 seconds for hand time

4.34 (40 yd) = 10.2 sec 100 meters (world class)

4.43 = 10.4 sec 100 meters (rare for a HS sprinter)

4.54 = 10.6 sec 100 meters

4.63 = 10.8 sec 100 meters

4.85 = 11.0 sec 100 meters

Fastest times at the State meet this year (Div I) was 10.7. Nobody in
Div. II or III broke 11 seconds). NOBODY AT BG RUNS A 4.4 FORTY! Live with it.

I'm kind of curious how these calculations are done since 1 yard = 0.9144 meters. A 100 meter run is closer to 110 yards. It would seem to me that forty yard times are indeed somewhat more accurate that everyone lets on. These men are actually only running 36.58 meters in 4 point something seconds. A basic extrapolation, since I don't know what actually goes into these calculations, on 4.34 (40) should figure into an 11.9 100 m range. That's not exactly world class sprinter speeds. I have no clue how your getting these numbers. How are these calculations actually done for someone like myself who knows nothing about how these extrapolations are done but would like to know a little more?

[Dr. Bucko]

UK --- a simple extrapolation (simple propotions) does not work. That is you can't say that 40 is to 4.4 as 110 is to X; that will not work since the athlete is accelerating through approximately 50 - 60 per cent of his/her race, and decelerating the other half. You have to actually measure it during the course of a 100 meter race as described in one of the above posts. If you're on the scene, it's easy to do; I've done it many times. --- And once again, I don't want to make an issue out of this at all, I don't want to burst anybody's bubble. I'm just as excited about BG football as the next guy, but let's get the stats right and stay realistic. The fastest guy playing football today in the State of Ohio is Ginn from Ohio State, and he's just under 4.4 in the forty (at least that's what I've been told). He ran a record setting 10.4 in the State Meet three years ago. No one else comes close, not even close.

[hammb]

Personally, until they start running their 40s in pads & helmets I couldn't care less. I've seen countless speed demons who don't play that fast, and I've seen countless guys run away from everyone on the football field who don't time fast.

Football speed is totally different than track speed. A stopwatch time run in shorts is essentially worthless in evaluating a football player, IMO.

[Falconboy]

Then I guess most of you will a agree with me that a 6'5 260lb. guy no matter how good a shape he's can run a 4.4 or 4.5 then right? I've been told that a certain NFL player (I'm thinking Jevon Kearse) ran a ridiculously fast 40 time once. I told my friend that that was just not possible at this guys size and weight. Tell me I'm right please.

[UK Peregrine]

Then I guess most of you will a agree with me that a 6'5 260lb. guy no matter how good a shape he's can run a 4.4 or 4.5 then right? I've been told that a certain NFL player (I'm thinking Jevon Kearse) ran a ridiculously fast 40 time once. I told my friend that that was just not possible at this guys size and weight. Tell me I'm right please.

Not so fast my friend, from the NFL:

Kearse ran the fastest time in 40-yard dash at 4.43, which occurred at the NFL Scouting Combine in 1999. He tied CB Deion Sanders for the fastest first 10 yards of the 40-yard dash in Combine history.

So it is possible, at least according to NFL timing. Sorry.

http://www.nflplayers.com/players_netwo ... x?ID=26988

[Falconboy]

Then I guess most of you will a agree with me that a 6'5 260lb. guy no matter how good a shape he's can run a 4.4 or 4.5 then right? I've been told that a certain NFL player (I'm thinking Jevon Kearse) ran a ridiculously fast 40 time once. I told my friend that that was just not possible at this guys size and weight. Tell me I'm right please.

Not so fast my friend, from the NFL:

Kearse ran the fastest time in 40-yard dash at 4.43, which occurred at the NFL Scouting Combine in 1999. He tied CB Deion Sanders for the fastest first 10 yards of the 40-yard dash in Combine history.

So it is possible, at least according to NFL timing. Sorry.

I have a hard time believeing that though. A 6'4 guy and roughly 240 or more running almost as fast as Dion Sanders. It seems rather unlikely and seems physically impossible for a guy the size of Kearse to run that fast. Usually the quickest and fastest guy in the football are the smaller , slender guys, mostly 6'3 or under especially when your talking 4.4's and under.

[hammb]

Then I guess most of you will a agree with me that a 6'5 260lb. guy no matter how good a shape he's can run a 4.4 or 4.5 then right? I've been told that a certain NFL player (I'm thinking Jevon Kearse) ran a ridiculously fast 40 time once. I told my friend that that was just not possible at this guys size and weight. Tell me I'm right please.

Not so fast my friend, from the NFL:

Kearse ran the fastest time in 40-yard dash at 4.43, which occurred at the NFL Scouting Combine in 1999. He tied CB Deion Sanders for the fastest first 10 yards of the 40-yard dash in Combine history.

So it is possible, at least according to NFL timing. Sorry.

I have a hard time believeing that though. A 6'4 guy and roughly 240 or more running almost as fast as Dion Sanders. It seems rather unlikely and seems physically impossible for a guy the size of Kearse to run that fast. Usually the quickest and fastest guy in the football are the smaller , slender guys, mostly 6'3 or under especially when your talking 4.4's and under.

The part of Kearse's time that was close to Deion's was the first 10 yards. They split that separately to guage a prospect's explosion. Still for a guy Kearse's size to have Deion-like acceleration is just unheard of, but anyone that's seen that guy blow buy an OT would have to admit how fast he really is. I think Deion ended up in the 4.2 range for his combine time. I know it sounds ludicrous, but the NFL combine is a slow track and they use electronic timing. Not sure if they did when he was there ('87?).

Even still Kearse ran an electronically timed 4.43, so I'd say that he's pretty fast.

[duckunder53]

The CB out of Atlanta, Alan Strong I believe, just verballed to Vanderbilt.

[bg sports fan]

yes both rivals and scout .com have him listed as a verbal to vandy

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

Most of those 40 yrd times are pure fiction. Here is how various 40 yd times can be extrapolated into something more meaningful: (all electronically timed) --- add 0.2 seconds for hand time

4.34 (40 yd) = 10.2 sec 100 meters (world class)

4.43 = 10.4 sec 100 meters (rare for a HS sprinter)

4.54 = 10.6 sec 100 meters

4.63 = 10.8 sec 100 meters

4.85 = 11.0 sec 100 meters

Fastest times at the State meet this year (Div I) was 10.7. Nobody in
Div. II or III broke 11 seconds). NOBODY AT BG RUNS A 4.4 FORTY! Live with it.

By these calculations, Deion Sanders could have set the world record in the 100 meters...Rocket too.

[falconman]

We landed Tyler Sheehan from Cincinnati LaSalle. He's 6'5" and 200 lbs, he narrowed his choices to us, UC, Iowa, and Michigan.