It's another season, another year to EARN the respect again!

[TG1996]

Miami students pay a student fee for a yearly pass to athletic events...

BG students pay a student fee for a yearly pass to athletic events...

How are students not season ticket holders?

That's stretching it a bit. Somewhere in our pile of dead horses is the "but students pay a general fee to get into games" argument. No one denies that. But what it does is gives them a GENERAL ADMISSION ticket to games. As per the MAC rule, the seats behind the visitors bench shouldn't be part of this seating. If students want to buy tickets to sit in these "reserved" areas, then let 'em, that's not the argument here. And maybe the MAC rule *is* messed up. I personally don't think it is, but whether or not it is or it isn't, it IS THE RULE. And its a rule Miami(OH) chose not to abide by for at least a couple of years, if not longer.

The situation with the Kent player trying to get in the stands was cute and funny then, but I guarantee if he would have made any contact in the stands, there would be calls in to lawyers before the next set of downs was completed.

Of course, you could also just station Jon Wauford in the front row and he can handle anyone that might walk by and look at the students funny.

[redskins4ever]

Jon Wauford was right in every way... fans have no place on the field of play, before, during, or after... any educated fan will tell you that.

If you do come on the field, don't go towards the opposing team that just lost a game, thats like throwing gasoline on a fire, especially in a rivalary situation.

You tell me that Greg Studawra wouldn't give a Toledo fan a little forearm action after a tough loss in the glass bowl, should Toledo pull out a tough hard fought win? The fan comes running at your team to taunt you, and lets not make any delusional explanations that the fan is trying to leave the stadium.

I won't bother trying to explain this again.

Miami had no other place to put its students... you don't like the atmosphere... beat us on the field.... best way to shut fans is to kick their team's butt!

[TG1996]

and lets not make any delusional explanations that the fan is trying to leave the stadium.

But the Marshall fans told me that the corner of the endzone was the nearest exit for fans in the back rows of that section....

And please don't try to explain it again if that's what you're coming with regarding the seating. In a stadium of what 30K or so there is NOWHERE else to put students? Try again.

[Flipper]

What part of "keep the students where they are but put the home team benches in front of them" is so difficult to comprehend?

[Rightupinthere]

I made a similar post like this last season, and I'm making one again this year in the preseason. First off, I love this board, no doubt. I find out more information and get more details on here than I could anywhere about BG. The last four years have been wonderful for BG football, and as good as they've been, the future can be even better. Over the last two months, I've read a lot of posts about an undefeated season for BG, magazines not respecting BG and picking us to finish second in the MAC East, etc. While I am cautiously optimistic about this season, I'll say again this season what I lsaid ast year. It's 2005....and we've got to show it, do it, and earn it all over again. Last year is just that – last year. It's in the past. The seasons of 2004, and 2003, 2002, etc.....they are all in the past. While we've made great strides and have proven ourselves (then), now we've got to go out there and prove ourselves all over again in 2005. We've got a great history, but now it's our future we need to take care of.

To be honest with you, on paper, I think BG is the best team in the MAC in 2005. But we all know games aren't won or lost on paper. We've got to go out 11 times in the regular season and prove that this year – all over again. We should know by now we aren't going to be given anything, we've got to go out there and earn it. When I see us picked second to Miami, you know what, I almost have to agree. Why you might ask? Well, BG hasn't beaten Miami since 1997. And if I remember correctly, Miami is the only team in the MAC to own a winning record over BG. Miami has owned BG in recent years, as the RedHawks have won six consecutive games over the Falcons including three consecutive games right in our own backyard at Perry Stadium. BG hasn't won in Oxford in a decade, not since 1996, and that's where this year's game is scheduled to be played. And before we start factoring into the equation that we moved to the West and they started in the East, keep in mind, the only year we didn't play was 2002. The fact of the matter is, Miami is defending East champs and they've been the team to beat in the East the last couple years. To me, they should be the team to beat which is why we need to go down there and finally do it this season. Although I think our offense is better than Miami's, I do believe their defense is a lot better than ours. But just like I said about BG, the same also applies to Miami – the past is in the past. But all the talk in the world won't change that from BG or Miami fans. The deciding factor in this will be on November 15th. November 15th the stage will be set, and the better prepared and the better team will come out on top. I hope it is us.

We have another new challenge ahead of us in 2005. As good as we've been in recent years, we still haven't won the MAC. But this could be the year. But we all know, we've got a bulls-eye on our backs. Teams will be gunning for us every week. It's going to take one helluva season from the entire team and coaches to pull of a MAC championship and a bowl game again. I know we "can" do it, but it's up to the team to actually go out there and make it happen. We need a total team effort, all season long. We can't score 41 points and lose a game, like we did vs. Toledo. Our defense must show up this season. We can't underestimate a team due and have them shove the ball right down our throat like we did vs. Northern Illinois. And we can't squander the perfect opportunities like we did at Ohio State two years ago. We can certainly learn from out past, but we must make our own future.

I think 2005 can be a very special year, but I'm going at it one week at a time. I'll start with Wisconsin and go from there. It's one game and one week at a time. I've circled a few dates on my calendar as ones to pay special attention to, and I hope at the end of the year, this season will go down as the best ever at BG!

Very well put, 33. It seems as though some of the younger fans are a tad too confident in regards to the up and coming season.
I have reserved optimism. I believe we will lose to either UT or Miami. I would prefer losing to UT in the Doyt, frankly.

[TG1996]

I would prefer losing to UT in the Doyt, frankly.

I think I follow your reasoning for that, but home losses are unacceptable, especially to those cretins. Although as this thread has started to show, argyle might trump even cretin come November.

I say beat 'em all, let Rick Chryst sort 'em out!!!

[Jacobs4Heisman]

No matter what the records are, I think that BG has the better QB. No offense to Josh, but Omar is a Sophomore and is playing VERY well. To be a Heisman and a Maxwell candidate as a sophomore is very rare.

I also think that Miami has the better overall team. But we have a first year coach, though I'm not worried about him, our team has shown it can be a little finnicky at times. I think that in the East BG and Miami are tied as the teams to beat. Miami holds the past two East Champs and BG has the West Champ from two years ago. BG has a tried coaching staff that has shown that they know how to win.

The MAC East title will be decided at the Miami-BG game, and it will be decided that day for many years to come as well.

Omar's a junior, and a redshirt one at that.

I disagree (big surprise) that miami has the better team. I don't think the gap is huge, but I do think that our offense is farther above yours than your defense is above ours. The problem is our offense seems to sputter when it counts in big mac road games...we'll see at Yager. I also think our defense will be much improved this year simply due to the addition of Lovett. I also think our d-line will surprise a lot of people. (read: Wisconsin)

As for the last statement, the only team that I see coming into the picture besides BG and Miami in the next 5 years is Ohio. Good facilities + Solich = potential. If basketball can recruit so well, as it has, I see no reason football won't follow suit with solich at the helm.

[redskins4ever]

Yo FLIPPER... WE DID THAT... or are you just skimming all of that... we just dont agree with having the MAC meddle in our seating arrangement... if the MAC come in and says that no students may be on any sideline of any sport... how happy will you be with Anderson arena?

I swear... if you dont read the entire thread... dont bother responding.

[Flipper]

You know...when there's so little wheat and so much redskin chaff, it's hard to stay interested.... Bando insists that the students are going to be by the visitors, is he lying, is he wrong?

[MiamiBando]

What? That isn't what I typed.(notice I didn't type said.) I wrote that the band was being put at the top of the East Grandstand between the 40's and that the students would go on either side(not sure which.) The home reserve seating stays on the West Grandstand(I believe) and there is a new "Reserved" section in the East Grandstand between the 30's behind the Home bench.

I was saying that Miami can't stop people(Students in particular) from sitting in the West Grandstand behind the opponents bench. If they pay or there is no one sitting there, how can they stop them.

But then again, that's just what Dave Shaffer said.(The MUMB director.)

[Lord_Byron]

This thread confirms two things for me:

1. 33 is right, this has the potential to be a magical year. We should all savor every minute of it.

2. I hate Miami with the white-hot intensity of 10,000 suns.

[Rightupinthere]

I would prefer losing to UT in the Doyt, frankly.

I think I follow your reasoning for that, but home losses are unacceptable, especially to those cretins. Although as this thread has started to show, argyle might trump even cretin come November.

I say beat 'em all, let Rick Chryst sort 'em out!!!

My reasoning is as you assume. I believe we are going to lose at least one of those games. I would rather lose to UT since it doesn't matter in the grans scheme of winning the East.

I would rather beat them in the MACC.

Yes, Lord. It's good to be back in the East. Oh, how I despise the Redskins.

[redskins4ever]

Hey.... BG has a winning record vs every other MAC school.... that is a great thing!!!

But the Miami Whammy... well thats almost worse then the Cubs inability to win the world series!

[BGSU33]

Miami has certainly had its way with BG over the years, including the recent ones. That's why I do not making bold statements and talk trash. I have too much respect for BG and every single one of our opponents. I learned a long time ago that "eating crow" tastes "fowl." Being a huge BG fan for years and also working in collegiate sports for almost a decade, I usually like to take the approach of be prepared to avoid could happen as opposed to being overconfident. I've experienced on more than one occasion what it's like to lose when you basically had a 99 percent chance of winning. It's horrible. I'd always rather be pleasantly surprised than extremely disappointed.

[TG1996]

I was saying that Miami can't stop people(Students in particular) from sitting in the West Grandstand behind the opponents bench. If they pay or there is no one sitting there, how can they stop them.

Make it reserved seating. If they buy a ticket with a seat number there, you CAN'T stop them. But to leave that open as GA seats, or specificially mark that off as student seating is where the problem lies. If there's no one sitting there, and its reserved seating (as it should be), check ticket stubs and yank 'em out.

Sheesh, I thought you guys were supposed to be smart?