Our OFFICIAL colors?

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:33 am

If you don't know what Pantones or need the colors to use for websites, the official hex codes for our orange and brown are as follows...

Brown: #613005
Orange: #FF7300

I do find it out though that the Pantone colors and the CMYK values are remarkable different to the eye. Of course I'm not looking at them under 5000K lighting either

BGSU Falconz · Post by **BGSU Falconz** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:46 am

We have a 5000K light workstation set up for the 4 color press here at work. You would be amazed at how colors change under different lighting environments.

PMS spot colors will always be slightly different to your CMYK process values because PMS spot colors are, by definition, pre-mixed inks.

RGB will be even more off.

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:51 am

BGSU Falconz wrote:We have a 5000K light workstation set up for the 4 color press here at work. You would be amazed at how colors change under different lighting environments.

PMS spot colors will always be slightly different to your CMYK process values because PMS spot colors are, by definition, pre-mixed inks.

RGB will be even more off.

All things considered, I'll stick with my box of Crayolas!!

Then, upon further investigation, I stumbled upon this:

Binney & Smith manufactures 120 different CRAYOLA Crayon colors, not including specialty colors. A complete Crayola Crayon Color Assortment list is available via regular mail. If you would like to receive a copy of this, please send an e-mail by choosing the Ask a Question tab above and be sure to include your full name and address. You can also reach us by calling (800) 272-9652 weekdays between 9 AM and 4 PM Eastern Time.

How hard is it to post a list on the internet?!?!

I always liked Raw Umber and Orange. I think I remember coloring a helmet with that combination. Or was that Burnt Sienna??

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:53 am

BGSU Falconz wrote:We have a 5000K light workstation set up for the 4 color press here at work. You would be amazed at how colors change under different lighting environments.

PMS spot colors will always be slightly different to your CMYK process values because PMS spot colors are, by definition, pre-mixed inks.

I noticed that the site did not specify what type of Pantones we use (coated, uncoated, etc.), do you by chance happen to know? That makes a huge difference to the eye as well!

Ah, maybe it's time to busy out the good old colorimeter and check some Delta E values

BGSU Falconz · Post by **BGSU Falconz** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:14 pm

Metz wrote:
BGSU Falconz wrote:We have a 5000K light workstation set up for the 4 color press here at work. You would be amazed at how colors change under different lighting environments.

PMS spot colors will always be slightly different to your CMYK process values because PMS spot colors are, by definition, pre-mixed inks.
I noticed that the site did not specify what type of Pantones we use (coated, uncoated, etc.), do you by chance happen to know? That makes a huge difference to the eye as well!

Ah, maybe it's time to busy out the good old colorimeter and check some Delta E values

Technically, The formulas for coated, uncoated, UV, etc, are usually the same. The only difference is the final output (depending on what type of stock you're using), and when you're referencing a Pantone formula guide (they have a section for coated and a section for uncoated to give you an idea of what the output will look like).

For example, PMS 100C, which is a bright yellow, will look exactly like 100U on screen, and in fact will have the same formula (1 pt Pantone yellow to 31 pts. Pantone Trans. Wt.)

In other words, the PMS number is the specification....whether or not it's coated or uncoated will depend on what you're printing it out on. And my guess would be the publication department prints on both coated and uncoated paper on a regular basis.