Bowling for Pasadena

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:14 pm

Flipper wrote:Not having a home game until October 1st is ludicrous, it's unacceptable, it's an insult,...it's just outrageous.

"You put the balm on? Who told you to put the balm on? I didn't tell you to put the balm on. Why'd you put the balm on? You haven't even been to see the doctor. If your gonna put a balm on, let a doctor put a balm on."

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:16 pm

oaklane2 wrote:I talk to my kids about falcons all the time but they spent one miserable week with my sister-in-law and her husband and now all they talk about ohio state this and buckeyes that. How in the world can I turn them from the dark side.

How about if every time they talk about The Buckeyes, Brutus, or THE Ohio anything, you beat the hell out of them???

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:19 pm

1987alum wrote:
[Attendance] will all depend on two things:

1) how we start vs. Wisky & Boise State
2) weather

Sad yet true...

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:23 pm

i hope we can average 20,000... any word on season ticket sales? local papers here are going nuts b/c Purdue season tickets are highest they've ever been at this time..

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:27 pm

CapitalFalcon wrote:
1987alum wrote:
[Attendance] will all depend on two things:

1) how we start vs. Wisky & Boise State
2) weather
Sad yet true...

I was thinkin the same thing. How sad is it when a team as exciting as this one is, that has some remarkable opportunities, is still worrying about attendance issues in a stadium that seats about 25k right now? Hopefully that new marketing director has some ideas up his sleeve and a comprehensive plan to sell not only Omar, but the entire program to fans. Ohio may be inundated with D-1 football, but the people here are crazy about football and we ought to be able to find 25,000 of 'em to come watch some fireworks.

Sorry, the horse twitched.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:30 pm

yea the NIU game we managed 31,000 or something like that, there has to be some way to get all of those people back, once again it comes down to winning football games..

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:38 pm

BGSUFootballFan wrote:i hope we can average 20,000... any word on season ticket sales? local papers here are going nuts b/c Purdue season tickets are highest they've ever been at this time..

I'm going to resist saying I'll eat a bug if we average 20K, but I will say it's going to be awful tough...

Toledo will be a sellout, but that's could easily be wiped out if, as I suspect, the Ohio game is played in front of 10K or so. OK, it's late on a Friday afternoon and I'm going to leave work early, but let's work out a little math ...

OK, we have five home games. So we need 100K to average 20,000, right?

Let's say we start off strong against Wisky & Boise State and eclipse last year's opener with 25K. I personally don't see that happening, but let's say that. Now we need 75K over the last four games. Of course, we'll sellout Toledo. How many is that with the other stands being torn down? Well, we'll be generous again and say that we duplicate the crowd from 2003 - 29K. That's 54,000 in just two games, meaning we'd need 46K over the other three games. Doesn't sound so bad.

For Ohio, we pencil in 12K, which is realistic. Now we need 34K over the other two games - Akron & WMU. As noted, against Western with ideal weather, we drew 18K.

So, we'd have to exceed our best crowd of last year by a full 8% in the opener, sell out against Toledo like we did in 2003 even though we actually have fewer seats, get picture perfect weather for Family Weekend and then draw a decent crowd for Akron.

Bottom line - averaging 20,000 is possible, but certainly not easy.

Too much math. Must go home.

Now.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:42 pm

Without giving the "we must not overlook anybody" crowd more fodder, if we do well enough against Wisky and Boise to bring in a solid crowd vs. Temple (even though it *is* homecoming), then barring a trainwreck, we'd be in good shape for the rest of the home season (even a loss at Miami(OH) wouldn't bring the UT attendance below 22 or 23K, I'd think).

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:57 pm

TG1996 wrote: (even a loss at Miami(OH) wouldn't bring the UT attendance below 22 or 23K, I'd think).

Honestly, I'm still not convinced that our ticket prices haven't already brought the UT attendance down to the 22 or 23k range.

I think we have a lot of people who go to one game and one game only. In past seasons they'd make it the UT game, because it was the most desireable game. Now that we've made that game cost an extra $10, I'm not so sure that people won't just go to one of the other games, or no games at all.

I'm sorry, but I'm not convinced we're yet in a position to price gouge for UT. If it has MACC implications we will see a lot of UT people here though, so we'll see.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:14 pm

i certainly hope we can pull more than 12K with Ohio, thats the game im going to try and make the 5hr journey too, and i like to see 15k, yes i know the students are gone, but Ohio is a good upcoming team and Solich is a big time coach

It's the Journey... · Post by **It's the Journey...** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:43 pm

According to today's Sentinel Tribune about 50% of their season ticket holders have renewed and there have been several new season tickets purchased. Paul said they were happy with how that was going and more will be done to push season tickets. The article also said Doyt Perry had a capacity of just under 24,000. Paul also brought up the importance of getting off on the right foot as far as attendance is concerned.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:35 pm

24,000 seems like a low compacity... but im glad season ticket sales are going fairly well

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:39 pm

It's the Journey... wrote:According to today's Sentinel Tribune about 50% of their season ticket holders have renewed and there have been several new season tickets purchased. Paul said they were happy with how that was going and more will be done to push season tickets. The article also said Doyt Perry had a capacity of just under 24,000. Paul also brought up the importance of getting off on the right foot as far as attendance is concerned.

Paul? I forgot how good of friends you 2 were

It's the Journey... · Post by **It's the Journey...** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:57 pm

HAHAHA, nice Metz. He also said the removal of the North endzone bleachers reduced capacity by right around 4000 seats. I didn't realize the seating there held that many fans.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:07 pm

BGSUFootballFan wrote:i certainly hope we can pull more than 12K with Ohio, thats the game im going to try and make the 5hr journey too, and i like to see 15k, yes i know the students are gone, but Ohio is a good upcoming team and Solich is a big time coach

I hope so, too. But that's pretty realistic. I'd like to see 15K, too. But that's not realistic. The kids being gone is huge. We've seen the impact the last two seasons - at least - and though fans will recognize Solich and the fact that Ohio is an up and comer, the casual fan will say, "Ohio? Eww, let's stay home."

BGSUFootballFan wrote:24,000 seems like a low compacity...

It is. But that's the half-step back we're taking for the big leap forward (SEBO).

Now, to get back to the 20K average. To average 20, we'll need to be at 83% capacity. We were at about 67% last year. So we're looking at a not all too favorable schedule - Toledo aside - and hoping for a huge increase, about 25% (from about 16,000 in 2004 to 20,000 in 2005).

Anyone willing to step up to the "I'll eat a bug" booth?