Lionel Sullivan talks with Hoopfactor.com

[transfer2BGSU]

The part that troubles me isn't kids leaving as much as it's not seeing that these kids might be too attached to home before we recruit them. Granted, that's probably easier said than done, but I think we could do a better job of evaluating the whole package before we offer kids. Of course I'm not out there coaching or recruiting so that's easy for me to say.

That's right - you're not out there day in and day out recruiting student athletes.

These guys all talk the same talk. They want to play ball and they're willing to go wherever if they get the chance. Then they're given that chance but they have to go away to play some ball -and go to class, and act with dignity and respect.

Dan Dakich is no different from the rest of the university. Do we fire Linda Newman, Director of Residence Life, because four students dropped out of the university just hours after coming to campus on August 17? or on Monday, the 22nd of August when 25 students do not show up for class because they've returned home? <No comments Matthew!>

This is a fact life on a college campus. Kids are going to leave and go home. The only difference is, you are only talking about the ones that are student-athletes.

[Flipper]

Some kids just blow up...my wife's god son was a decent enough HS student and he earned a partial ride to Kent for track. He pulled a 0.0 his first semester and hasn't gone back to school since.

He's really good at sitting on his ass though....

[It's the Journey...]

but, but, but.....

[BleedOrange]

Expecting coaches to reliably "read" this type of possibility in a kid during the recruiting process is absurdly unrealistic. If you believe that some improved "recruiting process" would help us avoid situations like this, please accept my earnest invitation to grip on basic reality as soon as absolutely possible.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Expecting coaches to reliably "read" this type of possibility in a kid during the recruiting process is absurdly unrealistic. If you believe that some improved "recruiting process" would help us avoid situations like this, please accept my earnest invitation to grip on basic reality as soon as absolutely possible.

I'll accept as soon as you read my entire post. I didn't say reliably read, I said do a better job. I said I realize I could not do any better. I said i understand it is not an easy process. How all that translates into me expecting things is beyond me. All I was alluding to was that other programs don't seem to have this kind of problem on this kind of scale. They seem to be doing a better job of evaluating personalities. I don't doubt that a decent portion of it is pure luck of the draw. However, I have a hard time believing that we are simply more unlucky than everybody else.


Transfer -- I said I'm not out there recruiting -- that means you don't have to convince me of anything. And I'm only talking about student athletes because that is all I know about. I also didn't suggest firing anybody or any drastic measures. I simply said I think we can do a better job. If anybody on this board thinks we are perfect in everything we do, including recruiting and keeping student-athletes, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I just don't think that's the case.

[transfer2BGSU]

He pulled a 0.0 his first semester...

As the college Registrar in North Carolina, I suspended 70+ students one semester for academics. 34 of them were first semester freshmen that had a 0.000 GPA for that semester. Many of them were students that had academic scholarships.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

He pulled a 0.0 his first semester...

As the college Registrar in North Carolina, I suspended 70+ students one semester for academics. 34 of them were first semester freshmen that had a 0.000 GPA for that semester. Many of them were students that had academic scholarships.

I can almost understand that -- I came to BG on a full academic ride having to maintain a 3.0 my frosh year to keep it. I drank and partied too much my first semester and was lucky to come away with a 2.5. I had to bust ass the next couple years to get my GPA up because it had to be to a 3.25 and then 3.5 my soph and Junior years. i think they've since done away with that rule and made the line a solid 3.0 but I'm not sure.

Anyways it's pretty easy to come to college and forget the whole education side to it. Like my dad always used to say about his time at BG -- "College was great except for all those damn classes".

[BleedOrange]

Expecting coaches to reliably "read" this type of possibility in a kid during the recruiting process is absurdly unrealistic. If you believe that some improved "recruiting process" would help us avoid situations like this, please accept my earnest invitation to grip on basic reality as soon as absolutely possible.

I'll accept as soon as you read my entire post. I didn't say reliably read, I said do a better job. I said I realize I could not do any better. I said i understand it is not an easy process. How all that translates into me expecting things is beyond me. All I was alluding to was that other programs don't seem to have this kind of problem on this kind of scale. They seem to be doing a better job of evaluating personalities. I don't doubt that a decent portion of it is pure luck of the draw. However, I have a hard time believing that we are simply more unlucky than everybody else.

You might've noticed that I did not quote you in my original post. My post was meant for anyone in general. The general sentiment has been posted numerous times in the past when this has been an issue.

[BGSU-Ph.D.]

I'm not sure how many of you played college sports, but the adjustment for an athlete can be quite difficult. For most, they are away from home for an extended period of time. Of course, this is true for most college freshman. The difference, however, are the practice schedules and lack of free time. This is especially difficult for football players.