I didn't call you pathetic. I was referring to your post. You were name calling (see "maniacal nutjob"), not I.
Childish? I wasn't using phrases like "totally blow monkey balls."
What did I post that was childish?
Yes, I was. Typing something for the sake of humor is not pathetic, its funny. That is all it is supposed to be. Was I name-calling? Yes. Was there a purpose? Yes.
Perhaps I just assumed you would be able to understand that and took your post of "pathetic" to be directed at me. I appologize, but you need to activate your humor sequence...
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I didn't call you pathetic. I was referring to your post. You were name calling (see "maniacal nutjob"), not I.
Childish? I wasn't using phrases like "totally blow monkey balls."
What did I post that was childish?
Yes, I was. Typing something for the sake of humor is not pathetic, its funny. That is all it is supposed to be. Was I name-calling? Yes. Was there a purpose? Yes.
Perhaps I just assumed you would be able to understand that and took your post of "pathetic" to be directed at me. I appologize, but you need to activate your humor sequence...
Just as (I assume) TGY takes what he does very seriously (thus the wholesale dismissal of anything says), I take what I do very seriously (no, I'm not a PETA member).
BGSU-Ph.D. wrote:
Just as (I assume) TGY takes what he does very seriously (thus the wholesale dismissal of anything says), I take what I do very seriously (no, I'm not a PETA member).
I didn't mean to dimiss anything you said or believe. My point specifically was that regardless of issue, I will not accept something from PETA, based on their overall actions. I believe that PETA is pretty close to being a terroistic organization. Boycotting March of dimes and other institutions working for treatments for human benefit simply because animals MUST be used is absurd. Destroying federally funded labs at Universities is dispicable as well. I apply this believe to all organizations of such nature (example Political orgs that resort to violence, regardless of whether I think they have a valid point.)
Also, I do think that cockfighting should be banned and criminally prosecuted. However I don't find the Gamecock mascot offensive.
BGSU-Ph.D. wrote:
Just as (I assume) TGY takes what he does very seriously (thus the wholesale dismissal of anything says), I take what I do very seriously (no, I'm not a PETA member).
I didn't mean to dimiss anything you said or believe. My point specifically was that regardless of issue, I will not accept something from PETA, based on their overall actions. I believe that PETA is pretty close to being a terroistic organization. Boycotting March of dimes and other institutions working for treatments for human benefit simply because animals MUST be used is absurd. Destroying federally funded labs at Universities is dispicable as well. I apply this believe to all organizations of such nature (example Political orgs that resort to violence, regardless of whether I think they have a valid point.)
Also, I do think that cockfighting should be banned and criminally prosecuted. However I don't find the Gamecock mascot offensive.
Look, I'm not trying to defend a lot of what PETA does, although I think they have done much good. They called me yesterday for a donation and I listed a number of reason why I wouldn't donate. I agree, for example, that resorting to vandalism is not the answer. I don't like many of the billboards and posters they produce. I could list a number of other things.
I disagree with you on the March of Dimes since I know of some horrible experiments they have done. Also, I disagree that animals MUST be used to advance medicine. Perhaps your lab closely follows federal regulations, which are weak to say the least, but many labs don't.
I'm sure we could go back and forth on this forever. And, I'm sure we don't want to.
#1 -- if God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them so delicious?
#2 -- And this is towards all vegetarians, vegans, another word I can think of that starts with a V....For every animal you don't eat, I will eat three.
The day I don't hate PETA is the day that Pam Anderson brings me a big juicy 24 oz. porterhouse......naked.
Do I eat meat? Of course I do. But I also respect those who don't. PETA has done some things that are good and bad, just like most other groups out there.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I only have two things to add to the PETA topic.
#1 -- if God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them so delicious?
#2 -- And this is towards all vegetarians, vegans, another word I can think of that starts with a V....For every animal you don't eat, I will eat three.
The day I don't hate PETA is the day that Pam Anderson brings me a big juicy 24 oz. porterhouse......naked.
Regarding #2, they're your arteries.
From a vegan and another word that starts with V, I guess.
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I only have two things to add to the PETA topic.
#1 -- if God didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them so delicious?
#2 -- And this is towards all vegetarians, vegans, another word I can think of that starts with a V....For every animal you don't eat, I will eat three.
The day I don't hate PETA is the day that Pam Anderson brings me a big juicy 24 oz. porterhouse......naked.
Regarding #2, they're your arteries.
From a vegan and another word that starts with V, I guess.
And I like em clogged with hamburger. =)
And journey -- if I would have wanted to post something logical, I would have. Ridiculing something that is obviously meant to be humorous and in jest generally doesn't work out too well
This is yet another reason why the NCAA sucks:
NCAA Will Let Fla. St. Use 'Seminoles'
By BRENT KALLESTAD
Associated Press Writer
August 23, 2005, 7:48 PM EDT
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The NCAA will allow Florida State to use its Seminoles nickname in postseason play, removing the school from a list of colleges with American Indian nicknames that were restricted by an NCAA decision earlier this month.
The NCAA said it was recognizing the relationship Florida State has long enjoyed with the Seminole Tribe of Florida, which assists the university with its pageantry and celebration of its culture and supports the school's use of its name.
"The staff review committee noted the unique relationship between the university and the Seminole Tribe of Florida as a significant factor," NCAA senior vice president Bernard Franklin said in a statement released Tuesday. "The decision of a namesake sovereign tribe, regarding when and how its name and imagery can be used, must be respected even when others may not agree."
Florida State president T.K. Wetherell had threatened to sue the NCAA immediately after its Aug. 5 announcement that the school's highly visible nickname, "Seminoles," was defined as "hostile and abusive" by a committee.
"The two things we requested in our appeal were granted," Wetherell said. "I'm ready to play football, start school and have classes begin and all that kind of stuff."
Lee Hinkle, vice president for university relations, said the school e-mailed 250,000 alumni and friends of the NCAA decision.
"I don't think anything has brought them together quite as much as this," said Wetherell. "Whether you're a Gator, Hurricane or Bulldog, those entities believe it's a Florida decision."
Gov. Jeb Bush also applauded the NCAA's reversal.
"When you make a mistake it's important to realize it and move on," Bush said. "They came to the right conclusion ... the Seminole mascot and the tradition at Florida State, is not offensive to anyone."
The NCAA said it would handle reviews from other schools on a case-by-case basis. The Illinois Fighting Illini, Utah Utes and North Dakota Fighting Sioux are among other prominent school nicknames that remain affected by the edict.
Utah athletic director Chris Hill said the school is expecting a similar ruling on its appeal. The university is working on its appeal with the Ute tribe and it should be filed within a week or two, he said.
"We want to do it as fast as possible, but we want to do everything thorough," Hill said. "We felt all along that we would get a favorable ruling."
Under the NCAA restrictions, teams with American Indian nicknames would not be able to display them on uniforms or have their mascots perform in postseason tournaments.
"The NCAA remains committed to ensuring an atmosphere of respect and sensitivity for all who participate in and attend our championships," Franklin said in the statement.
Wetherell said he has had some contact with the other schools.
"I think they (NCAA) understand, there will be other requests," Wetherell said.
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ZiggyZoomba wrote:Back to the topic at hand here....
This is yet another reason why the NCAA sucks:
What reason is that, exactly? (Didn't read article, but am somewhat familiar with today's ruling)
My guess would be that the NCAA still sucks because they were so quick to pass an excepmtion for the big boy FSU, but will likely drag their feet when considering schools like CMU, North Dakota, Utah and the other smaller institutions. All bow down to the mighty FSU dollar and rush to allow them to use their nickname while taking their sweet old time when considering everyone else. My money is on the Illini being excempt next. What do you think?
UK Peregrine wrote:
My guess would be that the NCAA still sucks because they were so quick to pass an excepmtion for the big boy FSU, but will likely drag their feet when considering schools like CMU, North Dakota, Utah and the other smaller institutions. All bow down to the mighty FSU dollar and rush to allow them to use their nickname while taking their sweet old time when considering everyone else. My money is on the Illini being excempt next. What do you think?
Maybe it was just a "first come, first served" sort of deal? If FSU appealed immediately, and had documentation from the Seminole tribe in their appeal paperwork, the NCAA can handle it immediately.
Maybe the Ute and Illini tribes are on vacation and can't be reached?
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UK Peregrine wrote:
My guess would be that the NCAA still sucks because they were so quick to pass an excepmtion for the big boy FSU, but will likely drag their feet when considering schools like CMU, North Dakota, Utah and the other smaller institutions. All bow down to the mighty FSU dollar and rush to allow them to use their nickname while taking their sweet old time when considering everyone else. My money is on the Illini being excempt next. What do you think?
Maybe it was just a "first come, first served" sort of deal? If FSU appealed immediately, and had documentation from the Seminole tribe in their appeal paperwork, the NCAA can handle it immediately.
Maybe the Ute and Illini tribes are on vacation and can't be reached?
You're correct. FSU went through this before when the Oklahoma Seminoles got porky about the nickname. The Florida Seminoles went on record saying they were fine with it and the Oklahoma tribe should mind their own business.
It all depends on who the tribal leader is and what his viewpoint is.
I'm just glad we never have to deal with this crap.
TG1996 wrote:Maybe the Ute and Illini tribes are on vacation and can't be reached?
Have you checked the casinos?
FYI The Seminole tribe was/is the only native american tribe NOT to surrender to the United States government.
As for the whole PETA / animal rights thing there is a difference with the mascot offense thing- People can be offended, to my knowledge animals cannot be offended.
And I find it interesting that neither PETA nor right wing groups who bomb abortion clinics are labeled terrorist because they often do resort to terrorist acts. I guess the "liberal media" doesn't want to print Christian Terrorists next to Muslim Fundamentalist Terrorists in their left wing rags. . .
