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[Tech83]

Guess I will chime in here...... I will try not to call anyone out, but......

First - I cannot believe some of the comments, particularly from a hockey school...... Low scoring, hard to understand, running is not a sport (then nether is skating)...... Unbelievable. Please continue to show your ignorance.

http://ccha.collegesports.com/sports/m- ... 04aaa.html

Ryan Brewer - Mr. Football Ohio 1998 played soccer until he was in seventh grade. He continued to play Spring Soccer with select club in High School. They credit his running style to his soccer playing. (You have to run with your head up to see the field) Which means, he had great vision of the field. Ask John Cooper what he thinks of the soccer playing Ryan Brewer (Outback Back MVP). It cost him his job.

As some of you know both of my boys have played soccer at the competitive select level. My youngest being in the state pool (top 53 players) of ODP (Olympic Development Program) - which is one step shy of Regional Camp (Nine state talent pool)

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/programs/odp/index_E.html

The Youngest is playing football this fall (seventh grade). He is laughing is @$$ off at the "Football" players who are blowing chow during the running drills and laps before practice. His vision of the field is amazing (Proud father talking) and is why he was the point guard on his select basketball team - the only player to play the full game..... again, because he was conditioned by soccer. 6 minutes of running up and down the basketball court was a breeze, while the baseball and football players were grabbing their sides. Plus soccer teaches you how to move WITHOUT the ball.

Most of the other top soccer players we know are also top athletes in other sports. Many of you are talking out of you rear end.

The only critic of soccer in this thread I can respect is Hammb -

Just let me clarify my comments that I do NOT think soccer is for wusses or whatever. I've seen soccer players get slide tackled and come up bleeding from spikes, or elbowed, whatever. They're definitely great athletes cuz that field is too damn big to be running around for 90 minutes straight, and the game doesn't allow for many substitutions.

I get all that, and in no way am I saying soccer players aren't great athletes or aren't tough enough......... I've tried to watch whenever the world cup or whatever is on, but it sucks...to me. That said, I have no problem watching 6 hours of televised golf, so I'm more than willing to admit that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Well said brother.

[Bleeding Orange]

Tech, whether or not you can respect my opinions or not (quite frankly, I don't care), hockey and soccer are two very, very, VERY different sports. If you're willing to so readily dismiss other's opinions because of your familial investment in soccer, I can just as easily do so with yours because I happen to have an investment in hockey.

Watch your arguments when getting confrontational. Many of us were joking for the most part.

[Tech83]

My comments are based on my personal experience. The point of my post really is to show that soccer, as a youth sport, leads to many other sports, which you can't say about most other sports. And my point is that most top soccer players we know are also top athletes in other sports - due in large part to the skill set needed to play soccer. (see my comments below) And for most part the athetes we know who are tops in other sports end up making soccer their "second" sport.

One of the best soccer players I coached in youth soccer is now playing for one of the top hockey clubs (High school level). And even for my own (family investment) boys, youth soccer has been a vehicle to other sports. My oldest has switched to Cross Country as a high school Freshman (just turned 14 and is 6'- 0 1/2" and 125 lbs). The conditioning he got from soccer and playing straight 70 minute games will little or no rest has turned him in to a very good long distance runner (Even though someone here did not think that running was a sport - which we will have to accept as a joke)

If hockey is your love, then you should have loved the ccha link.

As far as joking, some had that tone, others did not. It is all a guess since we can't see each others expressions.

As far as hockey and soccer being two very different sports, we will have to disagree. Their similarities are you need speed, endurance, the ability to move without the ball/puck (Which is a very hard skill to teach), and a strong vision of the field/rink. EACH player needs to know how to pass, move the ball/puck through traffic, recieve the pass, and to shoot. These are the intangibles that make the sports the same and you will not find in common with baseball, football, and track/field. I think you can throw basketball in there with soccer and hockey for the intangible similarities. I have gotten to the point when I watch the three sports I see nothing but the similiarites - but that's just me.

[Warthog]

And my point is that most top soccer players we know are also top athletes in other sports - due in large part to the skill set needed to play soccer. (see my comments below) And for most part the athetes we know who are tops in other sports end up making soccer their "second" sport.

We may be running into a chicken/egg arguement here.

I would argue that soccer is the first sport that kids are exposed to that they can play competitively (except in BG where I think you can play toddler hockey ). Kids start playing soccer at like four and five. But other sports it is much older. My kids in BG for example, could play baseball at age 5, football at 10, basketball at 7. If a kid wants to get out and do something, soccer is usually the first opportunity they have to show they have athletic skills. So while what you say may be true (that top soccer players are also top athletes in other sports), I could argue that these kids are just flat out good athletes and it is not due to soccer making them better, but soccer was their first opportunity to show that they are good athletes.

[Tricky_Falcon]

this is way too long of a thread especially when it involves soccer.

[Tech83]

I could argue that these kids are just flat out good athletes and it is not due to soccer making them better, but soccer was their first opportunity to show that they are good athletes.

I could not agree more. What also separates soccer from the other youth sports is that there are competitive select teams at the U-9 level. So you see your better athletes moving to competitve select soccer at the early ages, then moving to their primary or second sport later. AAU Basketball, select basketball, select baseball, and the select hockey clubs (verses recreational leagues for these sports - such as CYO, SAY Soccer, and so on).

I would think the bighest problem for youth football in a town the size of BG is going to be numbers. How many kids can you get to play as to field enough teams? I would think they would have to do what is done here in Dayton - where each local community has a pee wee football program that competes in a metro league. http://www.wojfc.com/ BG would need to play in a Toledo league, whcih may require some travel.

[JohnnySwoop '85]

BYRON:

No need on the garbage plate please but a Don & Bob's Original would be preferable!!!

Go McQuaid! Back in 1980 also a Football AND a Hockey school