Heisman love for Omar

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:49 pm

From ESPN.com's Dan Shanoff's Daily Quickie today:

"If voters are being honest, Bowling Green QB Omar Jacobs should be leading their Heisman poll, not Matt Leinart."

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:54 pm

Nice!

Redwingtom · Post by **Redwingtom** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:54 pm

See if you can spot the errors in Omar's section

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman/index

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:55 pm

Me wonders how much pub Omar will get when we aren't on National TV...

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:00 pm

What is funny is that they got the numbers all messed up and they seem mundane compared to his real ones

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:03 pm

BGDrew wrote:Me wonders how much pub Omar will get when we aren't on National TV...

Excellent point.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:03 pm

Redwingtom wrote:See if you can spot the errors in Omar's section

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman/index

I think they counted BJ Lane's TD on the shovel pass as a run instead of as a pass, like it should have been (I believe).

The numbers were off by 1-for-1 for 18 yards, the same distance as the shovel pass TD. (My front runner for play of the year until I watched the replay and saw Sanders made that sick cut and burst down the sidelines.)

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:23 pm

But isn't a forward pass a forward pass whether it us underhand, overhand, sidearmed or other?

I can see if it was a lateral pass, but it was a forward pass.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:24 pm

I think TG was saying pass, as it should have been.

The official stats will include the shovel pass in omar's stats.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:24 pm

Dayons_Den wrote:But isn't a forward pass a forward pass whether it us underhand, overhand, sidearmed or other?

I can see if it was a lateral pass, but it was a forward pass.

What he said.

Seems to me Omar could have turned to face his own end zone, bent down, and snapped the ball through his legs at B.J. and it still would have been a forward pass as long as it was actually moving forward.

NYFalcon94 · Post by **NYFalcon94** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:44 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Dayons_Den wrote:But isn't a forward pass a forward pass whether it us underhand, overhand, sidearmed or other?

I can see if it was a lateral pass, but it was a forward pass.
What he said.

Seems to me Omar could have turned to face his own end zone, bent down, and snapped the ball through his legs at B.J. and it still would have been a forward pass as long as it was actually moving forward.

If he pulls that off at some point this year, he'd better win the Heisman!

Falcon30 · Post by **Falcon30** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:44 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Dayons_Den wrote:But isn't a forward pass a forward pass whether it us underhand, overhand, sidearmed or other?

I can see if it was a lateral pass, but it was a forward pass.
What he said.

Seems to me Omar could have turned to face his own end zone, bent down, and snapped the ball through his legs at B.J. and it still would have been a forward pass as long as it was actually moving forward.

Let's not put that one in the playbook...

Remember last year when some people moaned about Peyton Manning either breaking or tying the season TD record with a shovel pass? Some people got on him for that.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:05 pm

It was a great looking play IMO. I hope to see it some more.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:31 pm

That was a TD pass. It was officially scored as such.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:48 pm

I finally got done with WORK today so thought I would chime in..... Yes, "shovels" "dish-off passes" whatever you want to call them are considered Passes. It can't be a run because then it would be an illegal forward lateral. It's a pass, a high probability one at that because they are so short with low rissk of int. and if the receiver drops it...well it's just incomplete.

Frankly, I liked the play...think of the multiple alternatives....looks like a QB option - QB could run or pitch to RB....QB could keep or shovel to second back (or receiver, or GOD forbid a TE) trailing the play ...or fake the keeper and the option drop two additional steps back and pass long.

The last alternative needs to be set up by using the other alternatives first...got to get those secondaries to bite on what they have already seen....Suckers!!

So you liked my expression of "Studrawa Armada" huh? I claim royalty rites!