Take me to your leader

It's the Journey... · Post by **It's the Journey...** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:58 pm

stupid michigan..............

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:10 pm

1987alum wrote:I have nothing to add to this thread, except every time I see the subject title, I start humming a Newsboys song.

Cuz they don't serve Breakfast in hell!

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:11 pm

Freak: good call!

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:04 pm

1987alum wrote:Freak: good call!

'87,

We have a few Newsboys cd's here at the Nest.

tekekini · Post by **tekekini** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 5:17 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote:Listen teke, being a fan of both schools is fine. The only reason that I called you out in this instance, and the reason that a lot of other people give you crap is not because you can't be a fan of both, it is because for a lot of people, this is one place they expect a bit of refuge from the media onslaught that surrounds OSU in the state. It gets quite annoying when your favorite team not only has to take a back seat to a program like OSU, but in most places outside of Toledo doesn't have a seat at all. I feel lucky that I no longer live in Ohio and don't have to see this on a daily basis - it is depressing when you truly care about your team.

Funny thing is, out west here, this totally isn't the case. In Arizona there are three major state universities - the University of Arizona (flagship, thank you!), Arizona State University and Northern Arizona. The latter actually plays ball as a DII school, but not one of these schools totally dominates the others in state presses. Regionally it may be different, but its kind of refreshing on the whole.

I understand your point of view that there are "majors" and "mid-majors" and all that - I just totally disagree wtih it. If these schools were in different divisions, then there would be no arguing with you. The fact of the matter is that BG, UA, KSU, OU, MU, UC and OSU are all DI schools. The only reason there is a disparity between them is because of perceptions like yours. Now, I'm certainly not singling you out, but if BG's, KSU's, MU's, etc. students won't change this perspective because they "grew up Buckeyes," then that is a sad commentary on the youth in the state. No one realizes that the more exposure your school gets, the more your degree is worth because it becomes more recognizable. When students of any university put that school behind another school because it is a "mid-major," they are only devaluing the piece of paper they are working 4-5 years to get. Its sad. If all BG is playing for is a "mid-major" conference championship and a crappy bowl game (you obviosly didn't enjoy the hospitality of the Mobilians last December), why the heck do our guys even suit up to go play the OSU's, Wisconsins, etc.? Do you really think they are there just to play the role of a stepping stone to a national championship?

So, in short, please be a fan of both schools. Good on 'ya for it! Just do it equally and don't belittle your own school because of it - you and your classmates are the only ones that will be suffer for it in the long-run. And please understand that there are real reasons that talking about OSU (when it doesn't relate to BGSU) bugs some people.

I didnt talk bad about BG, I only said things that were the truth, they are a mid major and they play in crappy bowls...

They play the big schools for recognition yes, they also play for a lot of money.

as far as devaluizing the peice of paper i went to school for.. I had learned really quickly when I searched for a job that your work experience is 10 times more important than where your degree comes from..I just got hired on to Bureau of criminal investigation in Ohio and I would not have gotten it if i wasnt working at Honda R&D as a temp