cowboyjoe wrote:
I think many teams this weekend would love to score 20 points...I may be wrong. Ask Iowa State if they are going to hang their offensive coordinator for only having 7 points at half-time of their game against Army tonight.
If you think we actually scored 20 points you need to re-watch the game. We scored 14 points in the 4th quarter when the game was over and they weren't covering us anymore. They were stat padding TDs at best. It made the end score look a little better, they made Omar's game look MUCH better than it was, that is all.
In my mind our team scored 6 points before BSU called off the dogs, and let us go play.
They didn't call off any dogs and North Carolina didn't get any "late" "give me" touchdowns late in the game against Wisconsin and Iowa the same thing against Iowa State. If it's so easy to get late touchdowns when teams are calling off the dogs, the why did they end up with 3 points each?
cowboyjoe wrote:They didn't call off any dogs and North Carolina didn't get any "late" "give me" touchdowns late in the game against Wisconsin and Iowa the same thing against Iowa State. If it's so easy to get late touchdowns when teams are calling off the dogs, the why did they end up with 3 points each?
I didn't watch either of those games, so I cannot say for sure.
When teams are getting blown out one of two things happen. The team that is getting killed eiither keeps their starters in there to try and salvage something (like we did), they start playing a little better than they did to create the defecit, and they add some garbage points that mean nothing unless it effects the spread in vegs.
Conversely the team that is getting blown out can fold up shop and get ready for next week's game.
I've seen both.
I take absolutely 0 solace in adding 14 points against a team that was beating us by 40+. They were garbage points against backup defenders that do nothing except make our stats look a little better.
I take absolutely 0 solace in adding 14 points against a team that was beating us by 40+. They were garbage points against backup defenders that do nothing except make our stats look a little better.
Well said and as I stated in my earlier post, there is absolutely nothing good about 6 yards in an entire quarter. Even when the BG defense was better in past years, they could not have sustained against a team as good as Boise with an offense that performed that poorly. I am not excusing the defense, because yes it was poor, but I am not gonna put on the orange colored offense glasses and proclaim that this game should be on the shoulders of the defense. The offense was bad too. The special teams was not much better.
BGSU-Ph.D. wrote:I asked the question because people love to get on this board and make sweeping claims. I'm just trying to learn the basis for their claims. For example, Newbie writes that s/he has never in her/his "35 years of watching college football seen a defense as inept at getting to the ball carrier as the Falcons of 05." I don't know if s/he is referring to D-1 only or all levels of college football. Also, I don't know how much college football s/he watches. I can't dispute her/his claim since I don't know what teams s/he has seen play, but, assuming s/he has seen a good deal of ball, the statement strikes me as hyperbolic.
Well, then.............let me be more anecdotal in nature. I have NOT seen every college football game ever played, but my personal experience is such that I've never seen a defense more inept than ours. Of course, being only my personal experience, it may differ somewhat from that of others. Now, at the risk of speaking in metaphors, let me say that this defense SUCKS.
The problem, it seems, is that you mustn't have seen much MAC football over the years...or Sunbelt, or other "non-BCS" conference, or Duke, or Baylor (they are much better this year), etc.
1987alum wrote:FWIW, our defense is statistically at 111 out of 117 in total yards. That places us behind such defensive luminaries as Temple, San Jose State and Louisiana-Monroe.
I'm not going to argue that the BG defense is good, but statistics don't mean much if you don't consider the opposition. For example, Texas Tech's offense is ranked #1, but they have played three D-1AA teams. So, their ranking doesn't mean crap other than that they like to schedule inferior opponents and then run up the score on said opponents.
[I take absolutely 0 solace in adding 14 points against a team that was beating us by 40+. They were garbage points against backup defenders that do nothing except make our stats look a little better]
Iowa couldn't get any garbage points today could they? Why not? It's easy to get those garbage points and make stats look better. Iowa had 18 rushes for 9 yards and passing they had 22-39 for 146 yards and gave up over 500 yards total yards. All I'm saying is that supposedly bigger and better teams in the top 20 are having way worse games than we had the other night. I don't care what anyone says, Wisconsin could not stop us and no one will score over 24 points on them all season. They could be in the top 5 in the nation in total defense before it's all said and done. The only reason they wouldn't would be because we hung over 500 yards on them to hurt their average.
BG has the worst defense of any team that has a such a potent offense as ours. I'm sure there are worse defenses than us, but they also don't have an offense that doesn even resemble the defensive side of the ball. Its like we have the offense of USC but the defense of Bluffton college. Our D doesnt look like they are are part of the same team as the offense.