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1987alum wrote:Given that Toledo was missing their star QB and their #1 back, they played about as well as you could have hoped. As the announcers kept repeating - the Rockets didn't get outgained and controlled the clock. Do those two things and you'll win 99% of your games. A pick six and a blocked punt are momentum changers and that's what killed 'em.

After seeing that game, it seems clear to me that Toledo will not be suffering any big drop off after Gradkowski graduates.
I never figured that they would drop off after Gradkowski because I don't think he's a very good quarterback. Sure he has tremendous accuracy, but that is as much a product of all the screens and dump offs in their offense as it is of his talent. His arm strength is sub-par and he throws a terrible deep ball from what I've seen of him.

Now before the rockette posters get all fiesty, I think he's a solid quarterback that definitely has "it". He's a good leader and competitor. He sure has kicked our azz a couple times. But he's not a super-duper QB. There are many many QBs who would put up similar numbers in that system. Cochran's numbers being what they were last night proved that to an extent. The 36-yd TD in the first quarter was thrown about 7 yards in the air to a wide open receiver who ran the rest of the way. I could've made that throw. Without watching a ton of UT football, I would bet that a lot of "Brad's" yardage, TD's, and certainly completion % have a lot to do with the same type of thing.

Basically what I'm saying is it doesn't take a superstar QB to run that system. It needs an accurate, semi-mobile, smart QB who can run the system and manage the game. Gradkowski has excelled at all of those facets, but there are a lot of players out there that could do pretty well with that offense. Jury is out on Cochran, as he looked very slow last night when attempting to scramble. I remember Brucie getting a lot of key first downs on scrambles against us last year. That doesn't seem to be a part of Cochran's arsenal.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote: It needs an accurate, semi-mobile, smart QB who can run the system and manage the game.
I think you meant to say mobile and semi-smart QB. :wink:
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UK Peregrine wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote: It needs an accurate, semi-mobile, smart QB who can run the system and manage the game.
I think you meant to say mobile and semi-smart QB. :wink:
I meant "football' smart. I don't think Brucie will be winning any Fields medals =)
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Bleeding Orange wrote: BOWLING GREEN STATE UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO BE MAC CHAMPS COME DECEMBER.
That's how I see it. :wink:
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Falconfreak90 wrote:
Bleeding Orange wrote: BOWLING GREEN STATE UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO BE MAC CHAMPS COME DECEMBER.
That's how I see it. :wink:
I see it as BGSU is going to be THE MAC Champ.

Or they ARE going to be the MAC Champs.

You know...that whole subject verb agreement thing...sorry [/grammar smak]
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Bruce Brad hell its all the same I am not a UT/TU fan....but they would have won or at least made a game out of it with ....with it as QB.


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MACMAN wrote:Bruce Brad hell its all the same I am not a UT/TU fan....but they would have won or at least made a game out of it with ....with it as QB.


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Not even I stooped so low as to turn Brucie neuter.


FWIW -- Dan Marino wouldn't have allowed UT to win that game.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:He sure has kicked our azz a couple times.
:roll: Only once my friend :roll:

And I wouldn't really call it an azz kicking, it was an eight point game after all.
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True, but it was a twenty-eight point half. :?
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Redwingtom wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:He sure has kicked our azz a couple times.
:roll: Only once my friend :roll:

And I wouldn't really call it an azz kicking, it was an eight point game after all.

riiiight -- he definitely kicked our collective ass multiple times in those 30 minutes of football. I've never felt more fan pain than I felt during that second half and he was a big part of it.

Anyhooter, I just threw that in to keep the rockettes from saying "derrr he was good enough to beat you guys last year derrrr lol lol".
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:His arm strength is sub-par and he throws a terrible deep ball from what I've seen of him.
Bruce's sub-par arm strength and terrible deep ball beat BG. It was the deep ball that got the Rockets back in the game last year. How does it feel to get beat by a QB with a weak arm?
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Its nice to see we're smart enough not to gloat....
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TJRocket wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:His arm strength is sub-par and he throws a terrible deep ball from what I've seen of him.
Bruce's sub-par arm strength and terrible deep ball beat BG. It was the deep ball that got the Rockets back in the game last year. How does it feel to get beat by a QB with a weak arm?
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1987alum wrote:
TJRocket wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:His arm strength is sub-par and he throws a terrible deep ball from what I've seen of him.
Bruce's sub-par arm strength and terrible deep ball beat BG. It was the deep ball that got the Rockets back in the game last year. How does it feel to get beat by a QB with a weak arm?
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Geez, itchin' for a flame war or something? Geesh.
Not at all. I would have thought that Bruce's performance last year against BG would be enough to convince the Falcon faithful that he is the real deal.

Apparently not, oh well. On to the MAC schedule.
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TJRocket wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:His arm strength is sub-par and he throws a terrible deep ball from what I've seen of him.
Bruce's sub-par arm strength and terrible deep ball beat BG. It was the deep ball that got the Rockets back in the game last year. How does it feel to get beat by a QB with a weak arm?
Reading comprehension dude -- reading comprehension... :roll:
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