speaking of kickers

Dr. Bucko · Post by **Dr. Bucko** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:59 am

I attended a high school game last night (Napoleon vs Findlay) and watched two kickers one from either team put the ball consistently THROUGH the end-zones on kick offs. I was amazed! And the Findlay kicker (Walker -- I think that was his name) put a couple of near-40 yrd field goals up with total ease. ----- So Dr. Brandon, you got two kickers right at your back door.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:03 pm

Let's hope that they are keeping in contact with Brett Upson out of Georgia. He still has BGSU listed as a school he is interested in, the other two are Alabama and Tenn. I think but I do not know their kickers' tenure without further surfing to know if he is looking at stepping in for 4 years or has to wait.

Upson you may remember had his video linked here by someone several weeks back. It was the one showing him making everything from beyond the next county...

Besides, another (2) ** kicker from Ohio, Nate Reed, just solid verbaled to Kent State over the weekend. And I couldn't find the two aforementioned guys in this thread via rivals.com

FalconFanKM · Post by **FalconFanKM** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:58 pm

That Upson kid has a leg. I'm not an expert on kickers, but I think we should all email him and ask him to come...

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:53 am

FalconFanKM wrote:That Upson kid has a leg. I'm not an expert on kickers, but I think we should all email him and ask him to come...

Please don't. That could be a violation of NCAA recruiting rules.

BGSU Falconz · Post by **BGSU Falconz** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:13 am

Warthog wrote:
FalconFanKM wrote:That Upson kid has a leg. I'm not an expert on kickers, but I think we should all email him and ask him to come...
Please don't. That could be a violation of NCAA recruiting rules.

While it's probably not a good idea, seeing as how none of us are associated with the NCAA, I don't think it would be a violation.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:25 am

I think we would technically be considered boosters. The risk probably isn't worth it. This was discussed a while back.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:33 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I think we would technically be considered boosters.

Anyone who gives to Falcon Club, or to the Sebo project or who holds season tickets is probably a booster.

He's right. It isn't worth it.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:04 am

Just some quick searching on google:

NCAA RULES (Bylaw 13.01.5.1)
Boosters are prohibited from making in-person, on-campus or off-campus recruiting contacts with a prospect or the prospect's (recruit) relatives or legal guardians.

Boosters are prohibited from writing to a recruit or the relatives or legal guardians of a recruit.

Boosters are prohibited from telephoning a recruit or the relatives or legal guardians of a recruit.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:08 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:I think we would technically be considered boosters.
Anyone who gives to Falcon Club, or to the Sebo project or who holds season tickets is probably a booster.

He's right. It isn't worth it.

Actually anyone who spends money on supporting a school, even just buying tickets, is considered a booster. And of course anyone who graduated from BGSU is considered an alum and they cannot have improper contact such as emailing a recruit.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:33 am

Hammb: Solid stuff. But here's the question - what's the definition of a booster? Is it the broad definition laid out by Dayons Den? Is Noah considered a booster because he bought a ticket to a BG game?

I'm intrigued to know what my boundaries are. Here's an example - I teach Sunday school for our high schoolers. Every Sunday, the boys and I spend five minutes or so before class talking college football. They, of course, know all about BG and I've talked about the school and football program in glowing terms.

One of our kids is a high school football player. In this case, he's not going to play in college, but what if he were a potential recruit? Would I have crossed the line here?

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:36 am

1987alum wrote:Hammb: Solid stuff. But here's the question - what's the definition of a booster? Is it the broad definition laid out by Dayons Den? Is Noah considered a booster because he bought a ticket to a BG game?

I'm intrigued to know what my boundaries are. Here's an example - I teach Sunday school for our high schoolers. Every Sunday, the boys and I spend five minutes or so before class talking college football. They, of course, know all about BG and I've talked about the school and football program in glowing terms.

One of our kids is a high school football player. In this case, he's not going to play in college, but what if he were a potential recruit? Would I have crossed the line here?

The line is probably drawn sometime after the University has shown official "interest" in a potential recruit. I don't know if that interest is defined at sending a scout, calling the kid's parents, or sending a letter. I'm guessing that if you tried to influence said recruit in any way after that offical interest has been show, you could be in violation of NCAA regulations.

Again, I'm just guessing here, but it sounds pretty logical.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:45 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Again, I'm just guessing here, but it sounds pretty logical.

I don't know if mixing logic and NCAA regulations is good idea!

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:48 am

1987alum wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Again, I'm just guessing here, but it sounds pretty logical.
I don't know if mixing logic and NCAA regulations is good idea!

point taken.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:51 am

'87 I'd have to dig up the official wording, but I'm pretty sure you can get away with a LOT if you have a "pre-existing relationship" with said recruit. Certainly you being their Sunday School teacher, and thus most likely a friendly relationship, you'd be fine.

I'm thinking you'll get away with a LOT if it's somebody that you have a pre-existing relationship with.

Dayons does appear to be right, however. If you've put any money into the university you're pretty much considered a booster. Booster may be the official term, but from the NCAA definition it sounds like all fans/alumni will fit under that term.

factman · Post by **factman** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:22 am

Notre Dame has been skirting this for a long time, using the local priest in helping recruit. It is shady as can be, but..........................
Most priests won't push a kid to SMU!!!