Anyone know what the MAC Tie-Breakers are?

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:02 am

With BG, Miami, Ohio and Akron all in the running for the MAC East title and a trip to the MAC Championship, I was wondering if anyone knew the MAC Tie-Breakers? I remember last year someone dug them up. I just have a strong feeling there's going to be a three or four-way tie and our loss to Akron already has me worried.

BG certainly has the toughest road to get to the MACC with a game at first place Miami before hosting first place Toledo. Akron probably has the easiest road, but for some reason, I think Ohio will coming out of the pack and winning the East by winning its last two games and getting the tie-breakers. I hope I am wrong.

Here's a look at the MAC East race:

Miami (4-2), vs BG, @ Ohio
BG (4-2), @ Miami, vs. Toledo
Ohio (3-3), @ Akron, vs. Miami
Akron (3-3), Ohio, Kent State

jpfalcon09 · Post by **jpfalcon09** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:17 am

All BG has to do is beat Miami and have Akron lose another game and they clinch the MACC, they would hold the breakers vs. Ohio and Miami then.

Better yet, win out and forget about Akron losing.

Go Falcons!

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:47 am

Yeah, I know, but I am still wondering what the "MAC" tie-breakers are....I already know what BG has to do - just win baby!

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:10 am

The MAC football media guide is online at mac-sports.com, but I can't seem to find anything about the tie breaker procedure in it.

Maybe someone else is a better hunter?

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:57 am

Tie-breakers are too confusing to worry about. Seems to me they're different every time I look them up so I don't bother anymore. The winner of our game on Tuesday wins the MAC East.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:09 am

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:The winner of our game on Tuesday wins the MAC East.

Not so fast my friend. Miami goes to Ohio the following week and could easily be upset by the Bobcats. Ohio has Akron and Miami left to play. If they win out, they go 5-3 in the East. If Miami beats BG and Ohio beats Miami, they are tied at 5-3. And we could join that group pending the UT outcome. If there are just two teams tied at 5-3, Ohio wins the tiebreaker with Miami and is in the MACC!

Not sure what happens if BG, OU, and Miami all end up tied at 5-3 and are all 1-1 head to head. :shrug:

Akron can still win the East as well. BG beats Miami and losses to UT. Ohio losses to Akron and beats Miami. Akron beats OU and Kent. Akron and BG would be tied at 5-3, Miami and OU at 4-4. Akron has the tiebreaker on us so they go to the MACC.

Lots of possiblities left. Way too early to say the winner of the BG-Miami games wins the East.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:24 am

All the more reason to figure out the answer to the question raised here...what is that 3rd tiebreaker?

I guess some enterprising person could email the SID or the MAC with that question.

JimmyZ11381 · Post by **JimmyZ11381** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:53 am

Forget about it...screw the tie breakers.....We won't need them when we beat Miami and Toledo...We have to believe that.

Go Falcons
~JZ

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:09 am

Warthog wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:The winner of our game on Tuesday wins the MAC East.
Not so fast my friend. Miami goes to Ohio the following week and could easily be upset by the Bobcats. Ohio has Akron and Miami left to play. If they win out, they go 5-3 in the East. If Miami beats BG and Ohio beats Miami, they are tied at 5-3. And we could join that group pending the UT outcome. If there are just two teams tied at 5-3, Ohio wins the tiebreaker with Miami and is in the MACC! Not sure what happens if BG, OU, and Miami all end up tied at 5-3 and are all 1-1 head to head. :shrug:

Akron can still win the East as well. BG beats Miami and losses to UT. Ohio losses to Akron and beats Miami. Akron beats OU and Kent. Akron and BG would be tied at 5-3, Miami and OU at 4-4. Akron has the tiebreaker on us so they go to the MACC.

Lots of possiblities left. Way too early to say the winner of the BG-Miami games wins the East.

Yeah I know all that.

Whoever wins the Miami-BG game wins the MAC East.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:08 pm

Word on the tie-breakers. They don't favor us:

http://www.miamihawktalk.com/discussion ... hp?t=25218

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:25 pm

For those that don't want to look through the PDF to find the important info.

MAC EAST SCENARIOS—Following is an abbreviated version of the scenarios in which any one of Miami, Akron, Bowling Green or Ohio could earn the MAC East’s berth in the league title game.

Miami - Can clinch Tuesday night with a win over BGSU and an Akron defeat of Ohio (would own the head-to-head over both BGSU and Akron in the event of a loss at Ohio)

- Can clinch the outright title by defeating both BGSU and Ohio, regardless of the Akron-Ohio outcome.

- In the event of a loss to BGSU and a win over Ohio, Miami would need BGSU to lose at Toledo and Akron to win out, forging a three-way tie atop the division. The tie would come down to the third tie breaker, which goes to the team whose three cross-division opponents owned the highest winning percentage —Central Michigan, Northern Illinois and Eastern Michigan were Miami’s MAC West opponents.

BGSU - Can clinch Tuesday night with a win over Miami and an Ohio defeat of Akron (would own the head-to-head over both Miami and Ohio in the event of a loss at Toledo)

- Can clinch the outright title by defeating both Miami and Toledo, regardless of the Akron-Ohio outcome.

- If a win over Miami and loss to Toledo results in a three-way tie with Miami and Akron, the tie would come down to the third tiebreaker, which goes to the team whose three cross-division opponents owned the highest winning
percentage —Ball State, Western Michigan and Toledo are BGSU’s MAC West foes.

- In the event of a loss to Miami and a win over Toledo, BGSU would be eliminated from the race. The Falcons could forge a three-way tie atop the division but with a head-to-head loss over Miami could not win any of the tiebreakers regardless of whether Akron or Ohio is the third team.

Akron - Can win the division by winning out over Ohio and Kent State, if Miami loses to BGSU and Ohio and Bowling Green loses to Toledo. The Zips hold the head-to-head tiebraker over the Falcons.

- If Miami defeats Bowling Green but loses to Ohio, Akron could forge a three-way tie for the East by winning out and getting a BGSU win over Toledo.The tie would come down to the third tie breaker, which goes to the team whose three cross-division opponents owned the highest winning percentage
—Northern Illinois, Central Michigan and Ball State were Akron’s MAC West foes.

Ohio - Can win the division by defeating both Akron and Miami and getting a Miami win over Bowling Green. A win over Miami would give the Bobcats the head-to-head over the RedHawks in the result of a two-way tie or three-way tie that included Bowling Green

—BGSU would be eliminated by virtue of its loss to Akron in the tiebreaker and it would again come down to the head-to-head versus Miami

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:47 pm

In other words, there's a whole lot of ball to be played the next couple weeks.

Win the last 2 and we're in. Keep it simple, Freak.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:08 pm

Touche' there Freak...you are absolutley right.

But I appreciate all of the info PGY...I knew there were several options but not all of those.

And in case Akron needs to lose to Kent well then I guess you'll find me at 10:00 Thanksgiving morning rooting on those glorious Golden Flashes!

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:23 pm

so if we lose to Miami, then we're cooked - no chance

we better beat Miami

BourbonFalcon · Post by **BourbonFalcon** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:28 pm

That's how I understand it.