Gregg Brandon news from the Toledo Bland

MotorCityChamps · Post by **MotorCityChamps** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:43 am

good point my bad GARY BLACKNEY DAYS...........please don't settle for these guys

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:47 am

I don't know what's going on. I know this. If he gets an offer like UM got, than he would be nuts not to take it, and we should wish him and his family well. 99 people out of 100 would do the same thing. As mentioned above, just don't make committments you don't intend keeping.

Finally, my own opinion is that our next head coach is not on the staff right now, unless its Curtis Joseph.

I hope Coach stays as long as it works for him and his family. If he leaves, we will have to adjust. The program is not anytime soon getting to the level where this doesn't happen. If we pay our coaches more so they don't leave, big schools with far larger purses will only pay more to get the coaches they want.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:52 am

Looking back, the situation reminds me a bit of 92 when Blackney was in the running for the Duke job. My understanding is Blackney took his name out of the running, and I wonder if he regretted that, until he landed the current Maryland job obviously doing well there.

If I'm Brandon I'm gone.

That said, look at Brandon, he LOVES BG and all that but he really has no ties to Bowling Green or Ohio. Sure if its me I stay at Bowling Green and create solid program. But his motivations, loyalties, and allegences (sp) are far different from anyone who posts on this board.

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:53 am

according to the articles, GB is makign double was Urban made here, adn UNLV is offering 600k as opposed to the 500k UM got from Utah.

Granted GB is still a younger coach, and has lots of time to get further along in the coaching world 600k a year is tough to pass. 250k isnt bad at all til you compare it to what some of these other coaches make. From what I know about GB, I don't think hes the guy that would dro pus like UM did. He seems to really appreciate the Bowling Green community, and with a paycheck that is nothing to scoff at, I bet he sticks around for a while.

I think he likes it here, and likes the job, likes the kids, likes his staff. Unless he is greed overcomes him and he wants the money, I dont see him going to UNLV, we have a better program than them, so unless he wants to do an Urban and lift another team back into glory, then he is a Falcon for a long time.

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:58 am

If this program is so "storied" and has such a great "legacy" as people on this board purport it to have, if Brandon would leave, is there not one person out there that is a talented alum of this program that would step up and take the position for the long-haul???

GoFalcons4 · Post by **GoFalcons4** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:00 am

If it were me, I would stay, atleast in the fantasy world of playstation 2. Four years and counting.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:07 am

I guess this is what I'm saying:

There's got to be someone out there that relishes the challenge of building a program a la Joe Paterno or an Eddie Robinson.

I recognize it's a dangerous thing to try to do. At WMU, the Gary Darnell situation is a lesson for all MAC coaches. He's been loyal, and I've got to think his days are numbered.

Maybe Blackney is a lesson, too -- although we were very loyal to the guy.

But still ... Paterno took a second-rate eastern program and moved it into the Big Ten. That's a legacy. Marshall found Pruett, who is going to stay for life. Amtutz will probably stay as long as UT will have him.

I wonder if we have something likle that in Stud or Beckman.

Maybe neither one is ready right now. I don't know. You guys are closer to the program than I am. Smarter, too.

But it gets old, having our coaches approached by poachers every time they come close to a MAC title. It really sucks.

Krebs is poassibly the best AD we've every had (everyone should say a prayer tonight that Andy Geiger has no retirement plans).

But he can only pick out so many hot rising stars before getting unlucky.

And when he finally gets unlucky... we'll be stuck with that guy for five years.

It's just frustrating.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:08 am

Did Brandon intend to leave with Meyer and go to Utah but came back/decided to stay when offered the head job?

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:09 am

I'm tired of the two years and gone stuff. Everyone on this board says that we are big time football and that we could become a great program, yet we accept being a stepping stone. I for one am tired of being a stepping stone. I would like to have a coach that wants to coach here and stay here, not have BG be a resume builder. This isn't exactly the best time for players to be worrying about who their coach is going to be next season...

BGSUfanatUT · Post by **BGSUfanatUT** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:14 am

I think we are getting way ahead of ourselves, all of us. This whole thing sucks, and its shady and a half, but GB is here now, the season is still going on. I have no doubt he will be around for several more years. Lets not get all fussy and worry about when our coach is getting snatched up by another program. If thats what he wants to do after the season, fine. Go, we will find someone else. Id rather find a coach that WANTS to be here, and have a good season every year, than have a new coach every few years nad have a couple great seasons here and there.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:27 am

Tricky_Falcon wrote:I'm tired of the two years and gone stuff. Everyone on this board says that we are big time football and that we could become a great program, yet we accept being a stepping stone. I for one am tired of being a stepping stone. I would like to have a coach that wants to coach here and stay here, not have BG be a resume builder. This isn't exactly the best time for players to be worrying about who their coach is going to be next season...

I understand what you are saying Tricky and I don't disagree. BG will always be a stepping stone for good coaches. But it should be a stepping stone to a Big 11, SEC, ACC, Big East school. Coaches leaving for Utah and possibly UNLV and considering that a step up is the frustrating part for me. :coo-coo: We have GOT to move to be at least at the same level of the WAC, Mountain West, C-USA schools. :rant:

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 11:37 am

MotownFalcon wrote:If this program is so "storied" and has such a great "legacy" as people on this board purport it to have, if Brandon would leave, is there not one person out there that is a talented alum of this program that would step up and take the position for the long-haul???

I think the feeling of the current athletic department is to go with young, cheaper, and coaches with promise, rather than proven talent .

As far as tapping into our storied program perhaps Don Nehlen could be welcomed back? If not as a coach at least to be honored properly instead of having his lasting memory of BG bein run out of town. What about Larry Smith? What is he up to? Remember that the last time we attempted to do something like this we hired a guy with direct connections to Doyt Perry and we got Moe Ankeny. ..

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:24 pm

NOW WHAT???!!! UNLV???

I read both articles. I can't and don't want to believe anything is gonna happen.

I am so sick and tired of being poached as well.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!

Falcon52 · Post by **Falcon52** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:34 pm

Listen, I hav eto beleive that GB sees great potential for BG over the next 3 years. The rise of Omar, and some positive scheduling should be a benefactor. Home and away versus Wisconsin & Boise. Marshall is leaving. Re-alignment of MAC with what I believe will be better chances for BG to go to bowl games. A couple more good years and at least one more bowl appearence and there will be a couple of Big Ten schools calling. Obviously I would want him to stay for as long as we can keep him. I think UNLV is a dead-end.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:37 pm

Falcon52 wrote:Listen, I hav eto beleive that GB sees great potential for BG over the next 3 years. The rise of Omar, and some positive scheduling should be a benefactor. Home and away versus Wisconsin & Boise. Marshall is leaving. Re-alignment of MAC with what I believe will be better chances for BG to go to bowl games. A couple more good years and at least one more bowl appearence and there will be a couple of Big Ten schools calling. Obviously I would want him to stay for as long as we can keep him. I think UNLV is a dead-end.

Many of us felt the same way with Urban...We had Harris and were going to be playing osu and Purdue the very next season...he left for Utah.

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