Bowl talk...

BelieveNBG · Post by **BelieveNBG** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:06 pm

And if I'm a bowl game trying to decide between us and Toledo or Northern, I would not pick us simply due to attendance.

Actually, attendance won't change that much regardless of the team. Each year due to the MCB garnering more attention and the MAC gaining more attention nationally, the numbers have increased. Toledo in 2002 had attendance of 45,000. The next year with BG, the attendance jumped to a record setting 51,000. Last year the number was slightly up to 52,000. BG will bring in as many fans as UT or NIU. Omar is still a huge draw. The folks in the Detroit area would be much more excited about going to see this dreadlock wearing quarterback with all the national hype instead of Bruce, because they just saw Bruce last year. Yes, our own fans count, but the bowls also want to market to the locals. While things may be quiet about Omar, there are still plenty of folks that want to see him in action. Our own fans will support due to such close proximity. NIU did not pull in as much support to their bowl game last year as we did at GMAC. Their tv rating was lower (.6 to GMAC 2.1) and the attendance was lower (21,500 to 29,500). Although these numbers will also reflect the opposing team, our offense and Omar put the locals in the seats.

GO BG!!!

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:03 pm

if they intended to include the conference championship game in the calculation of more wins than losses, it seems they would have added specific language stating so

since the language is silent, it seems that a 6-6 team that loses the conference championship game is bowl-eligible

You are assuming something either way that is not directly stated.

The language is ambigius. Just like my spelling

It also doesn't say whether or not games played in October when it is sunny and the temperature is over 50 degrees count - is it a assumption when someone thinks those games count?

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:14 pm

San Diego Falcon wrote:

if they intended to include the conference championship game in the calculation of more wins than losses, it seems they would have added specific language stating so

since the language is silent, it seems that a 6-6 team that loses the conference championship game is bowl-eligible

You are assuming something either way that is not directly stated.

The language is ambigius. Just like my spelling
It also doesn't say whether or not games played in October when it is sunny and the temperature is over 50 degrees count - is it a assumption when someone thinks those games count?

:ZZZZing:

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:14 pm

Nice Stretch, However, Regular Season and Post Season are two seperate things all together.

You could potentially be hurt by going to the championship game and losing if this was the case.

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:56 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2200571

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:34 pm

Looks like the SEC comes up two teams short on their bowl tie-ins.

ACC has one more eligible than tie-ins.

Big 12 - Texaco A&M will not be eligible come Friday afternoon. No idea about Kansas.

PAC 10 - No idea as to Arizona State and Stanford

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:13 pm

transfer2BGSU wrote:Looks like the SEC comes up two teams short on their bowl tie-ins.

ACC has one more eligible than tie-ins.

Big 12 - Texaco A&M will not be eligible come Friday afternoon. No idea about Kansas.

PAC 10 - No idea as to Arizona State and Stanford

55 teams currently eligilbe. Of the bubble teams. I project Houston, Memphis, UAB, Akron, Ariz St, and Arkansas State all to become eligible. Also, Maryland-NC St and LA-Lafayette--LA-Monroe winners will become eligible while the losers will not. That gets you to a total of 63 eligible teams to fill 56 slots.

Bottom feeders of those eligible:
BYU, Col St, New Mex, and Utah from the Mountain West all are at 6-5.
Houston, Memphis, UAB from Conf USA at 6-5
LA Tech and Nevada
Arkansas St and LA-city.
The MAC's own Central, Miami, Akron, Toledo, Western, Northern and BG.

So take off those eighteen teams and you have 45 solid bowl teams (as far as eligibility goes). So 11 of those 18 teams have to go to bowl games. So you have to come up with seven teams from that group that won't make it.

Only one Sunbelt team so Ark St or LA-whatever is out, that is one. Central MI is not in the mix, that's 2. The loser of NIU-Western falls out for sure, that's 3. Miami is staring at third in the East so I am throwing them out, that's 4. Akron only has a shot if they win the East and lets hope that doesn't happen,

, so that's 5. The Mountian West only has three tie-ins. TCU is in for sure, then they have the four teams at 6-5. Both Utah and New Mex tied for fourth in the conference at 4-4. I think one of them makes a bowl, one doesn't, that's 6. So now you are left with with three Conf-USA teams at 6-5 to fill two of their tie-ins and one left over. That one left over Conf-USA team, Nevada, LA Tech, BG, Toledo, and the NIU-Western winner fighting not to be the one other team left out.

My logic my be flawed, but it seems that the MAC has a shot at getting a third team in a bowl again this year.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:16 pm

Last year was an anomaly. I think the MAC gets it's two bids and that's it. This year, I don't think the conference deserves any more.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:21 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Last year was an anomaly. I think the MAC gets it's two bids and that's it. This year, I don't think the conference deserves any more.

I am not saying the MAC deserves any more either, but look at the other teams that might get bids. I say BG, Toledo, Northern, Western are just as deserving as any 6-5 Conf USA team or a 6-5 Moutain West team. I think the winner of the BG-Toledo game and the winner of the Western-NIU game both go to bowl games somehow. That would happen even if Akron somehow made the title game and won and got the automatic bid. It's hard to take Toledo if they lose because they will have lost their last two. But the Western-NIU loser still has a shot to make a bowl game, IMO.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:24 pm

Warthog:

You're right. They have a shot. I'd say it's not a very good shot, but it is still a shot. We'll see how the final week goes down!

irs · Post by **irs** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:48 pm

This was in Detroit Free Press - BG may be GMAC bound when they win MACC.

The MAC: The Motor City would select Western Michigan (7-3) if it wins the West Division.

Western Michigan can clinch the West Division if two things happen: Toledo loses at East Division-leader Bowling Green on Tuesday and Western wins at Northern Illinois on Wednesday. The division champions meet in the MAC championship game Dec. 2 at Ford Field.

"We would take Western even if it loses in the championship game because they would be the right thing to do," Motor City Bowl president Ken Hoffman said.

If Western and Toledo win, the Broncos could still go to a bowl as an at-large team.

No thanks: One team that doesn't want the Motor City Bowl is Iowa. "We know we're going somewhere, and we hope it's not the Motor City Bowl," linebacker Chad Greenway told the Iowa City Press-Citizen. "I don't want to practice in Detroit this time of year."

http://www.freepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 123/SPORTS

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:16 am

irs wrote:No thanks: One team that doesn't want the Motor City Bowl is Iowa. "We know we're going somewhere, and we hope it's not the Motor City Bowl," linebacker Chad Greenway told the Iowa City Press-Citizen. "I don't want to practice in Detroit this time of year."

Imagine my schadenfreude if Iowa gets the invite.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:03 pm

irs wrote:This was in Detroit Free Press - BG may be GMAC bound when they win MACC.

The MAC: The Motor City would select Western Michigan (7-3) if it wins the West Division.

Western Michigan can clinch the West Division if two things happen: Toledo loses at East Division-leader Bowling Green on Tuesday and Western wins at Northern Illinois on Wednesday. The division champions meet in the MAC championship game Dec. 2 at Ford Field.

"We would take Western even if it loses in the championship game because they would be the right thing to do," Motor City Bowl president Ken Hoffman said.

If Western and Toledo win, the Broncos could still go to a bowl as an at-large team.

No thanks: One team that doesn't want the Motor City Bowl is Iowa. "We know we're going somewhere, and we hope it's not the Motor City Bowl," linebacker Chad Greenway told the Iowa City Press-Citizen. "I don't want to practice in Detroit this time of year."

http://www.freepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... 123/SPORTS

If that's accurate, than it means that GMAC won't be able to extend an invite until the East champion is crowned and it would have to be that team. They wouldn't be able to pick a West team unless they waited to see if WMU won the MCB.