Brandon should squash the rumor now

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Compared to Bowling Green and NW Ohio?? C'mon...I love BG...but that's just a silly comment.
If you re-read my posts you will see I never made any correlation to BG/NW Ohio. I love BG and try to get back to visit as much as possible but i wouldn't move my family there. I gave my opinion that Las Vegas was and is a hell hole. I still hold that opinion (although falconfan made a compelling statement - I thank you for that ff1!) I hold the same opinion of quite a few other cities.

I simply said that UNLV would have to pay a coach quite a bit of money to take over the program in Vegas. No where did I mention our current coach NOT leaving because BG/NW Ohio was better than Las Vegas.

I finally stated that for $600,000, I would go. If some company offered me over half a mil a year, I would hire a realtor, send the wife and kid UPS Ground, buy a '58 Chevrolet Impala convertible and drive to the desert cranking I Can't Drive 55 by the Red Rocker. I may have high expectations and criteria for addresses, but I - being a capitalist - can sell out! God Bless America!

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The fastest growing city in America... LAS VEGAS... sorry folks but this is one BOOMING TOWN.
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Warthog wrote:That brings up a good recruiting issue. "Come on son, come to Bowling Green to see the corn fields and the wind blow" vs " Come on son, come to Sin City!" Seems alot easier to convince them to do the second one. :twisted:
You forgot "...and get your corn cob blown." Sorry...It had to be said! :lol:
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To answer a question mentioned above . . . Yes, Brandon received a 5 year extension with the Motor City Bowl win the day after the game.

At the time, President Ribeau told him that "he was not to look for another job anytime soon" or something to that effect . . . that's from someone with knowledge of the conversation.

I would not be upset over this unless we rush to push an assistant coach to the forefront that is clearly not ready to handle the head job a la Studrawa and Beckman. If there's a guy on staff that deserves the job it's probably Mick McCall or John Bowers.
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Neither has EVER been a coordinator!!!! duh!!!
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factman wrote:Neither has EVER been a coordinator!!!! duh!!!
Neither had Urban Meyer.
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McCall completed the Josh Harris transformation and had Omar ready for the transition. Our offensive success can be attributed to Mick McCall for having the QBs ready to go.

John Bowers has played many roles since originally coming in with Urban Legend. Various defensive positional coaching spots and the ever-important recruiting coordinator that netted Omar and the class of three years ago.

I think those are qualifications equal to and/or surpassing anything that a coordinator would be responsible for.
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I completely disagree with you. Experience as a coordinator trumps any positional coaching experience

McCall won't be offered the job over Studrawa. Chances are, he would probably leave with Brandon.

Meyer wasn't a coordinator whne he was hired, but he was hired at a starting salary of what $125,000? The job now pays double that at least, so you may be able to find more qualified replacements,
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Flipper wrote:I completely disagree with you. Experience as a coordinator trumps any positional coaching experience
I don't know about that. Sure, that's the conventional wisdom, but there are certainly some good positional coaches out there that are better head coaching candidates than coordinators are. There are a LOT of people that are suited for being coordinators, but not head coaches. No knock on them, some of them are great coordinators, they just cannot be the head coach. I'm sure there are also great positional coaches out there that would make excellent head coaches, but not so great coordinators.

Personally I'd hire Chris Spielman to be a head coach in a heartbeat, but he has absolutely 0 coaching experience. The man knows the game, and when he went in for his interview at OSU he had a huge notebook outlying his offensive & defensive philosophies, and a list of people that he would want on his staff. I believe Geiger said at the time he was the most prepared of any of the interviewees, but they could not give the OSU HC job to someone with no coaching experience. I don't think Chris would come to BG though, I think he has said the only coaching job he'd ever take is HC at OSU. This is just an example of someone I think would be an excellent HC without coordinator experience.

Personally, I'm of the belief that nobody on this staff would be among my choices for a HC.
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hammb wrote:
Flipper wrote:I completely disagree with you. Experience as a coordinator trumps any positional coaching experience
I don't know about that. Sure, that's the conventional wisdom, but there are certainly some good positional coaches out there that are better head coaching candidates than coordinators are. There are a LOT of people that are suited for being coordinators, but not head coaches. No knock on them, some of them are great coordinators, they just cannot be the head coach. I'm sure there are also great positional coaches out there that would make excellent head coaches, but not so great coordinators.

Personally I'd hire Chris Spielman to be a head coach in a heartbeat, but he has absolutely 0 coaching experience. The man knows the game, and when he went in for his interview at OSU he had a huge notebook outlying his offensive & defensive philosophies, and a list of people that he would want on his staff. I believe Geiger said at the time he was the most prepared of any of the interviewees, but they could not give the OSU HC job to someone with no coaching experience. I don't think Chris would come to BG though, I think he has said the only coaching job he'd ever take is HC at OSU. This is just an example of someone I think would be an excellent HC without coordinator experience.

Personally, I'm of the belief that nobody on this staff would be among my choices for a HC.
Spielman would be AWESOME!!! But I thought I heard him say he is a part owner or part-coach of some type of Arena league team...does anyone know for sure?
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I don't think he'd ever coach here...I don't think he knows that there are other schools in Ohio besides osu.
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While the football team has made a lot of money in the last three years, I have not, and it's possible I'm wrong, but I have not seen any proof that Gregg Brandon's contract was doubled when he signed an extension. It is my belief that as long as he is here, Dan Dakich is and will be the highest paid coach at the University and I can almost say with 99% certainty that he is not above $200K.

The Front Row guys were the ones who cited the $250K base . . . If it is $250 it is with media, apparell, and local incentives included. He received under $10,000 for winning the MCB.
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I like Speilman a ton also, but I don't think he's interested in coaching. Maybe if a spot openend in Columbus.....

I wouldn't object to Stud getting a shot, but I suspec that Krebs would open the search up before making a choice.
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Tricky_Falcon wrote:I don't think he'd ever coach here...I don't think he knows that there are other schools in Ohio besides osu.
He knows. He's called enough of our games for ESPN.

I'd be excited if anything like this was ever worked out. I mean, imagine the kids he could recruit.

A consistently underrated part of being a head coach is PR. Spielman would bring that in spades, and he certainly understands the game. If he hired good people around him, I don't see how we could go wrong.
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Brandon DID pretty much say the rumor was totally without fact at the coaches show last night. He said he has not been contacted by anyone at UNLV.
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