Interesting article in today's Blade

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:15 am

Warthog wrote:Eastern already has an OOC game on 9/9. Buffalo has four teams set up, but for some reason does not have dates on any of their OOC games for next year. Here is my guess at a schedule. Keep in mind, that with the 12 game schedule, you can only have one weeknight game and fit 12 games into 13 weeks of schedule time.

9/2 WISCONSIN @ CBS
9/9 KENT
9/16 @ Florida Intl.
9/23 BOISE STATE
9/30 @ Ohio
10/7 @ Ohio State
10/14 EASTERN MICHIGAN
10/21 @ Central Michigan
10/28 BUFFALO
11/4 @ Akron
11/11 MIAMI
11/21 (Tues) @ Toledo

I did this after looking at other teams schedules. The only possible MAC game on 9/9 are @ Ohio, KENT, and BUFFALO. Ohio still needs one OOC game, Kent needs two, and Buffalo has four, but no dates. And for 9/30, the available games are @ Akron, @ Ohio, EMU, and Buffalo. Akron still needs two more OOC games, and EMU needs one as well.

Warthog:

I publicy declare you to be Official AZZ.com Schedule Prognasticator!

Thanks for doing the work I am too lazy to do myself.

I like Kent early, too, though Noah has seen them already, so I'm hoping Da Bulls get penciled in for 9-9. If we play @Ohio, the MAC office needs a swift kick in the pants.

As for other OOC games, look for Eastern and Akron to play Temple. The Emus give Temple a winnable game.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:16 am

10/21 would be a great day for a trip down to Athens, with the colors in bloom.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:27 am

Ineedbotox wrote:A sure sign that Brandon is not doing an A#1 job at recruiting. It drives my husband crazy when his team has JuCo transfers. They weren't good enough to get Division I scholarships to begin with. So why do we want them???

Don't paint JuCos with such a broad brush. As O&B posted, they can be useful in filling in gaps. We have a depth problem and a JuCo here and there can help. They shouldn't be counted on as stars, but they can contribute.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:31 am

Warthog wrote:I agree that TE would be the first thought, but we do have some depth there. He seems a little too small for DE, and we have some depth there with Williams, Parks, and Briggs. Not many other places to go, so I will throw out WR. We are thin there and Ruiz made the move from TE to WR this year. Winovich isn't quite as big as him so I am gonna say WR.

Wow. Winovich as a WR? How'd you like to be a safety and deal with him? I can see Macon and/or Thomas busting into the secondary and Winovich looking for a downfield block. Yikes.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:37 am

1987alum wrote:If we play @Ohio, the MAC office needs a swift kick in the pants.

Don't bet against it. We have to remember that the Wisconsin game is a home game for us. The MAC office could easily look at BG and say we already have two home games in September that should have great attendance numbers. Given that, they might even send us on the road on both 9/9 and 9/30. But my money would be on one home MAC game and one away MAC game on the September schedule.

And for no other reason then it makes a lot of sense, I really think that @ Akron, Miami, and @ Toledo will be how we finish the season.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:40 am

1987alum wrote:
Warthog wrote:I agree that TE would be the first thought, but we do have some depth there. He seems a little too small for DE, and we have some depth there with Williams, Parks, and Briggs. Not many other places to go, so I will throw out WR. We are thin there and Ruiz made the move from TE to WR this year. Winovich isn't quite as big as him so I am gonna say WR.
Wow. Winovich as a WR? How'd you like to be a safety and deal with him? I can see Macon and/or Thomas busting into the secondary and Winovich looking for a downfield block. Yikes.

And that may be just what they are trying to come up with for him. More of a blocking type WR. So when you run those dreaded bubble screens to Partridge, we could line up Ruiz and Winovich on the same side to do the blocking. Or he lines up in the slot and cracks back on the outside LB or def end on the off-tackle run. Stuff like that.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:17 am

Wow. This thread is all over the place.

For starters, on Deaudre Perry. Let him go. I'm sorry, I know he's a good football player, but Football is a team game, and a team needs trust. Players need to trust that the people around them are doing their jobs so that they can do their job properly. How many chances can we keep giving the guy who QUIT on his team. Hearing all the NFLers talk when Ricky Tokesalot did it they all said it was the worst thing a player can do to his team. I cannot imagine that it's any better when he actually quits in the middle of the season. Between his academics and this latest transgression how many chances can we keep giving this kid? Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances in this case, I don't know, but at some point I think the team is better off letting him go.

Next, on to Winovich. All I can say is if we make him a WR, that is an act of desperation. He'd be a big, slow WR, better hope he can catch! We've used one year of his eligibility on special teams. We've used one year of it to teach him the LB spot. How about we let him stay at LB and let him sink or swim!? I know that he didn't look great there this year, but maybe we should let him stick somewhere, study film, and actually learn a position? Instead we keep bouncing him around till he has no clue what he's doing.

And finally, onto Jucos. I'm not a big fan of them at all, and I absolutely agree with BoTox that they're an indication of a poor past in recruiting. If you fill your classes with good talent and develop that talent you shouldn't need to add any JuCo kids. Usually JuCo's biggest use is to fix a program that is in shambles, because they are typically better players than true Freshman, but don't have the upside. You bring in some JuCo kids and they can fill your holes immediately with slightly more developed players. I won't turn 'em away, because we DO need the help, but I seriously think if you're doing a good job with talent evaluation and recruiting you shouldn't need to go that route.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:19 am

orangeandbrown wrote:I guess it doesn't bother me. Jeff Runnells made a huge sack in MCB, Steve Simonton was a contributor, as was Ruben Ruiz. I think they should be role players, though. Like a nickel back.

Maybe they matured since they left high school over those two years. I know I did when I was that age.

I don't mind filling a few holes with JUCO kids. With kickers it's a good thing to do supposedly because they've matured a little and have experience kicking off a smaller tee (at least that's what I think Azzani said on the coaches show one week).

You don't want to try to rebuild with a lot of JUCO players though...they have a tendency to flake out a little more than HS kids.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:12 pm

My concern is at WR. Aside from losing two of the MAC's best in Sanders and Sharon, we also saw promising young guys like Alexander and Hutcherson go bye-bye as well. These were two of the higher rated WRs to come to BG recently. We know Partridge and Parks are decent WRs, but we have so many question marks with the other returners. Jones, Emans, Magner, Kennedy, how much will they provide? Also, will Brantley have offseason surgery on his knee? He played with that brace this year and didn't get the surgery. I still think we should target a JUCO WR or two. And if Omar comes back, that can only help us land a very good one. I think we have a lot of young guys at WR right now that will be very solid in a couple years, I just wonder how good they all will be next season. Snatching a JUCO All-American couldn't hurt in my book.

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:40 pm

Ineedbotox wrote:A sure sign that Brandon is not doing an A#1 job at recruiting. It drives my husband crazy when his team has JuCo transfers. They weren't good enough to get Division I scholarships to begin with. So why do we want them???

Why the aversion to JUCO players that some have expressed? It is true that some JUCO's have flaked out in the past, while other have done quite well at BG and other schools.

I mean, Mike Anderson was a JUCO All-American and Player of the Year before transferring to Utah. He is obviously good enough to be a starting RB in the NFL with the Broncos, I would hope he would be good enough to get a DI schollie. Hell, Cal made a nice run with two former JUCO players in their backfield in Aaron Rodgers and JJ Arrington.

I just see no reason to have such a strong aversion to JUCO players. They can be role players as well as stars on some of the best teams in college football. Sometimes it just takes a little longer for some to development and at other times recruiters may miss (gasp) a unpolished player waiting to be dicovered. Heck, injuries can also be a reason why a player falls of the recruiting map and ends up at a JUCO (or even fall off the K-State radar and ends up at BG). It just makes no sense to me as to why you would limit your recruiting options. I want Brandon to look under every rock he can overturn to find those types of players like Anderson, Rodgers and Arrington that may be wating for a chance to prove themselves on a 1A level.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:46 pm

Winovich would be too slow to be a WR. If you hang 15-20 lbs on him he'd be the right size for a DE in our program. Hell, he's bigger than Diyral right now.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:53 pm

Flipper wrote:Winovich would be too slow to be a WR. If you hang 15-20 lbs on him he'd be the right size for a DE in our program. Hell, he's bigger than Diyral right now.

Good point, Flip.

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:29 pm

LOOK AHEAD
2006 SCHEDULE

Nonconference
• Sept. 2: Wisconsin at Cleveland Browns Stadium
• Sept. 16: at Fla. International
• Sept. 23: Boise State
• Oct. 7: at Ohio State

MAC games
(Dates to be announced)

• Home: Buffalo, Eastern Michigan, Kent State, Miami
• Away: Akron, Central Michigan, Ohio, Toledo

Looks like FIU is the only game we won't make next season. CMU will be our longest road trip. Ohio U is always a fun trip as well. Akron is a mere 10 min away. And there will be another gathering at the Freak's Nest after that game. I can't say I'm disappointed to not see WMU on the sked.

What do we have, 270 days til kickoff?

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:37 pm

FIU ... hmmm ... looks like I could get R/T tix for about $125 a piece ... might be an interesting road trip. 8)

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:19 pm

1987alum wrote:FIU ... hmmm ... looks like I could get R/T tix for about $125 a piece ... might be an interesting road trip. 8)

87,
For sure....if only the OSU tix didn't cost me an arm and a leg.

You could get 2 rt tix to Miami for the amount I'll be paying for 4 tix to the OSU game.