What does UCF's success say...

jacojdm · Post by **jacojdm** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:17 am

Ineedbotox wrote:Well, whether C-USA is better than the MAC or not (which I don't think it is), their attendance is better than ours.

C-USA Championship attendance = 51,978

MAC Championship attendance = 12,051

I went to a HS playoff game last week that had better attendance than the MAC Conference championship for gosh sakes. It just makes me mad, because I think we have good teams & play good football. We just make ourselves look stupid.

for two weeks in a row akron was outdrawn by 2-3:1 at the rubber bowl: first by massillon vs. mckinley (UA vs OU), and then by massillon vs. st. ed's (UA vs KSU). akron just plain doesn't have a following.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:29 am

Not just the championship game, but all season. CUSA teams averaged just over 25,000 fans per home game. The MAC averaged 14,500. The top eight MAC schools averaged 17,600. The bottom seven CUSA schools averaged 17,375. The top 5 CUSA schools averaged 35,000. The top five MAC schools averaged 19,234. The highest attended game at any MAC school was TN Tech @ NIU, 26,123. Is there any more evidence needed to see why CUSA gets six bowls bids and the MAC gets two?

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:14 am

Warthog wrote:Not just the championship game, but all season. CUSA teams averaged just over 25,000 fans per home game. The MAC averaged 14,500. The top eight MAC schools averaged 17,600. The bottom seven CUSA schools averaged 17,375. The top 5 CUSA schools averaged 35,000. The top five MAC schools averaged 19,234. The highest attended game at any MAC school was TN Tech @ NIU, 26,123. Is there any more evidence needed to see why CUSA gets six bowls bids and the MAC gets two?

Warthog: You're on a roll, my friend. Brilliant, though painful, post.

We can thump our chests about how great we think the MAC is and how much we dislike C-DOA but, as my father would say, "the bottom line is the bottom line." The MAC's bottom line continues to look weak.

ab1994 · Post by **ab1994** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:52 pm

1987alum wrote: Marshall was not one of the best teams in the conference last year. The program has been sliding since it was forced to play by the rules.

No doubt. But they were hardly a Buffalo or an EMU, and easily better than UCF. Their record in the MAC from the time they rejoined the conference was pretty spectacular and they were pretty much considered one of the conference's power teams. I'm sure there are a lot of CUSA fans rubbing their recent failure in their face as proof that the MAC is inferior to CUSA.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:09 pm

There is no arguing with the attendence numbers, but I submit this: C-USA teams have the distinct benefit of not having the majority of thier schools concentrated in two states full of toothless morons who feel a pseudo-nepotistic allegiance to a school that they have never attended.

I thought the phrase MHT'ers had going on when Marshall officially left for C-DOA was pretty damn funny: "DING! You are now free to fly your volleyball team across the country." The fact is, however, that as much as having to fly non-revenue sports hundreds of miles to play Rice sucks, it does expand the potential fanbase for the conference in general.

I tell you my friends, untill Ohio A&M is burned to the ground and their hapless fans euthenized, the MAC's attendance woes will continue. The quality of the product on the field, though, has shown that it can increase without attendance numbers increasing, though. Really, we're comparing apples and oranges here.