BG's true hockey rival

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:00 am

FindlayFalcon wrote:I thought UNO was our biggest rival. Oh wait---They think we are their biggest rival. Got it turned around there.

I think that is dying out over there, especially with sweeping them this year!!

MiamiBando · Post by **MiamiBando** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:09 pm

I see Miami and BG as rivals in every sport that the two have in common. In hockey, I think that OSU is Miami's biggest rivalry. There certainly is animosity there!

Anyways, here's to an Ohio Sweep of those derned outta staters! LOL.

*I don't think Miami or BG will make it out without at least ONE loss.

cbjhack · Post by **cbjhack** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:04 pm

If/when BG joins the Ohio Hockey Classic they would not play teams they already play (i.e. OSU or Miami). OSU and Miami will not play each other. The simply play the same teams. In the case of this years event, Holy Cross and RPI. Last year Colorado College and one of the Minnesota teams came in. If you recall, Colorado College came back to Columbus in April and lost to their rival, Denver in the NCAA Frozen Four. Not exactly "weak" competition, but its stronger than UCONN.

To determine a winner, they combine best overall record with goals scored and I think periods won. This is something that is done at HS or Club level tournaments.

McConvey · Post by **McConvey** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:17 pm

cbjhack wrote:If/when BG joins the Ohio Hockey Classic they would not play teams they already play (i.e. OSU or Miami). OSU and Miami will not play each other. The simply play the same teams. In the case of this years event, Holy Cross and RPI. Last year Colorado College and one of the Minnesota teams came in. If you recall, Colorado College came back to Columbus in April and lost to their rival, Denver in the NCAA Frozen Four. Not exactly "weak" competition, but its stronger than UCONN.

To determine a winner, they combine best overall record with goals scored and I think periods won. This is something that is done at HS or Club level tournaments.

But unless either Ohio St. or Miami decides to drop out of the Ohio Hockey Classic, adding BGSU into the mix would mean that someone from the CCHA has to play each other...

cbjhack · Post by **cbjhack** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:35 pm

But unless either Ohio St. or Miami decides to drop out of the Ohio Hockey Classic, adding BGSU into the mix would mean that someone from the CCHA has to play each other...

Not necessarily. They could add two more teams (BG and one other) and play a round robin of sorts with the three out of state teams. But from what I have gathered in media reports down here is that they would do that or BG would trade with Miami every other year or every couple of years. OSU would still play host since the event is obviously in Columbus. Plus OSU likes playing at home (in Columbus) over the holidays, versus traveling. I am sure that Miami also agrees with that notion.

The advantage to all of this is that it gives the college players face time in an NHL facility with NHL scouts looking on. The Director of Player Personnel for the Jackets is Don Boyd. Boyd is a former BG Icer who played in the early 70's. His daughter is a current BG student or a recent graduate. Oddly enough, there are as many or more BG alumni on the staff of the Jackets than OSU. The Director of Broadcasting for the Jackets, Russ Mollohan, is also a BG grad along with his wife. Their daughter is currently a junior at BG. I have heard that they are trying to get BG involved in some capacity.

FliccGirl · Post by **FliccGirl** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:50 pm

cbjhack wrote:While the Schott isn't the best atmosphere, it is still a great arena for college hockey.

Definitely true about the atmosphere. It would be a great arena if it weren't for the OSU fans.

Last year a friend and I were there for a game, and there was practically no energy in the crowd. We were up in the nosebleed section and could hear the players calling to each other from the ice. I've hardly ever heard that in BG's arena even from the first or second row!

And it didn't help that as the two of us were walking to the car, we were cussed out by what looked like several OSU basketball players who'd been at the game. (Or if they weren't, they were a group of all REALLY REALLY tall college-aged fans.) Classy all the way.

redhawk95 · Post by **redhawk95** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:33 am

cbjhack wrote:If/when BG joins the Ohio Hockey Classic they would not play teams they already play (i.e. OSU or Miami). OSU and Miami will not play each other. The simply play the same teams. In the case of this years event, Holy Cross and RPI. Last year Colorado College and one of the Minnesota teams came in. If you recall, Colorado College came back to Columbus in April and lost to their rival, Denver in the NCAA Frozen Four. Not exactly "weak" competition, but its stronger than UCONN.

To determine a winner, they combine best overall record with goals scored and I think periods won. This is something that is done at HS or Club level tournaments.

actually, that's not true. miami played cc in the first round last year, lost by one, then played mankato, whom osu defeated - in a tournament format, not pre-determined. in addition, miami will play rpi in two weeks, then the winner of osu/hc. check our schedule if you're so inclined: http://muredhawks.collegesports.com/spo ... sched.html

regardless, this thread is about bg's rival. has to be msu with the battles you guys raged in the 80s and 90s. definitely not us. our program is too young though we've come a long way in 12 years to being competitive nearly every season. you guys have way more hockey tradition than us.

osu is our biggest rival, and frankly, other than michigan, it's been osu and us competing for the second best team in the league (collectively) over the past 5 or 6 years.

McConvey · Post by **McConvey** » Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:15 pm

For me personally, I'd say I always hated Michigan.

I never had a problem with Michigan State. Maybe because we played well against them even if we weren't on the right side of the score or maybe because we didn't seem to have the problems with Ryan Miller that every other school seemed to have. Maybe it's because I wasn't around in the 80s, who knows? I just never hated MSU.

Michigan, on the other hand, I loathed. Always have and always will. They always seemed to take liberties on us, and yet were the biggest crybabies if you touched them at all (there's not enough cheese in the entire state of Wisconsin to complement the amount of whining Mike Cammallari did!).

I also hate Ohio State, although that's mainly because the whole lot of them are thugs. Never cared for Notre Dame much, either.

As for Miami, I usually rooted for them if they weren't playing us. Dunno why... just did. Seemed like a good enough club and their coach was nice to me once

(So was Culhane from WMU, come to think of it).

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:49 pm

I've always enjoyed our games with Michigan State, Michigan and Ohio State. There was always something special to me about playing those "Big Ten" schools in CCHA action. I also liked playing Notre Dame because, well, it was Notre Dame. As for "MAC" schools in CCHA action, it was always Miami. But if I had to narrow it down to just one team, I guess I'd have to say - Michigan State.

The Niz · Post by **The Niz** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:10 am

It was probably always great to play all those big ten teams cause hockey is the only sport we can really compete with them in. Yeah we've had some good Basketball games against them, but in hockey we have the power to really let into them, and we all know that nothing is better than being the little guy and crushing the big guy.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:46 pm

The Niz wrote:It was probably always great to play all those big ten teams cause hockey is the only sport we can really compete with them in. Yeah we've had some good Basketball games against them, but in hockey we have the power to really let into them, and we all know that nothing is better than being the little guy and crushing the big guy.

Well, I actually think we can compete with conferences such as the Big Ten in a lot of sports. I know this is a hockey post, but in hockey and other sports, on paper, most MAC schools are at a slight disadvantage.....but that's why you play the games. The MAC has beaten Big Ten teams in lots of sports: football, basketball, baseball, soccer, etc. But the other thing I have always felt works against the MAC the most when playing conferences such as the Big Ten is, we almost always have to play them on the road. Hockey is one of the exceptions and that's because we're in the CCHA, not the MAC or Big Ten. I'm not saying the MAC is equal to the Big Ten across the board or anything like that. But what I am saying is we usually have a much tougher time with what's stacked in front of us than the opposition does. But yes, I agree, it's what makes beating those schools extra special.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:56 pm

I think to expand a bit on what you're saying 33, is that the CCHA *is* one of the top leagues in the country. While BG may be hanging behind UM/MSU/OSU a bit of late, recruits to BG will get to play with, against and for some of the top competition in the country every weekend. It's a much different recruiting angle than telling a football player "come here and you might play at Ohio State one of your four years".

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:57 pm

TG1996 wrote:I think to expand a bit on what you're saying 33, is that the CCHA *is* one of the top leagues in the country. While BG may be hanging behind UM/MSU/OSU a bit of late, recruits to BG will get to play with, against and for some of the top competition in the country every weekend. It's a much different recruiting angle than telling a football player "come here and you might play at Ohio State one of your four years".

And if BG had anywhere near the presence in the NFL as we do in the NHL, it would be a whole different ball of wax.

It's hard to argue against BG being a hockey school.